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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:48 pm 
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i cba reading what everyone wrote so im sorry if this was mentioned but...

and i quote from loose women (british tv show)- "looks dont mean everything, ive never go for guys on looks.. but when your on the pull you dont wanna get with the ugliest thing in the club. you want to get with the hottest guy! *laugh laugh im a bitch of a women with no morals* ... " lol

This comes to every puas (unless you can dance like a spanish hero) the dance floor is a death trap.

if you go to a club, where you cant talk cus the musics too loud and your not the best looking guy, youd probably look like an ugly munter wearing so much bling he looks like a wrinkly penis, with a extra thick condom on and a cock ring.

but if you go to a bar and make girls laugh, neg, show your cool, have an awesome life etc. looks dont mean bullshit :)

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the question is why ugly or avergae guys assume a very good looking guy has no game ?
many good looking guys are confident and extroverted
all this good looks no matter crap is just a mantra average guys say to themselves to feel better
the fact of the matter is if a very good looking guy improves his social skills and his game he will be unstoppable whether you like it or not
he will have the advantage over average guys even if they have money or perfect game


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:38 am 
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just wear a hat man!!

and dont let them take it off you! until uve won them over already!
if they try to take it off you just be like...

hey come on! youre trying to undress me already? at least buy a me a drink first!

are you always this touchy?

how about you remove an item of clothing first!

But it looks better on me!!

etc etc..

just gotta overcome your insecurities bro! lifes too short to worry about it!

happy sarging!


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it differs from girl to girl...however I would say in MOST cases good looks get you nothing more than initial attention....not attraction, but attention. Im good friends with a fair amount of attractive out going party girls (we all socialize together A LOT so they are very comfortable and experienced in social situations and get hit on often). Since i got into pick up, I sometimes just sit and observe their behavior with other guys, and i ask them questions later (which is great of course, fascinating to say the least). One thing that ive noticed is that I only ever HEAR them commenting about the good looking guy in the club, they never really DO anything about it like making themselves available by giving off IOI's and putting themselves in his proximity etc. it is simply eye candy for them, the looks do not necessarily attract them from what i have seen. People simply like to look at pretty things, like a new car or a colorful flower, they are nice to look at...but thats about it!

When they actually DO get with the 'hot guy', its usually their ego wanting to be chosen by the hot guy in the club, and after that first kiss their ego is fill-fulled and theyre normally out of there pretty quickly! (UNLESS the guy has more game and actually ATTRACTS them). My girl friends that have boyfriends (a lot of them who are my friends) are average looking. None of the girls have ever been with a great looker for an extended period of time....why? its been mentioned before....incredibly good looking guys are rare (im talking 9 or 10)...but so are attractive personalities very rare (ie. a very skilled natural PUA for example) , now finding someone with BOTH is even more rare. my point is, they will only get into a serious relationships with a great looker that has good game, which i havent seen so far as its that rare. (by great looker i am referring to your hugo boss model type dudes).

Bottom line...game comes first....looks are just a bonus!


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This guys hairline is pretty receding as well..

borderline: hairline doesn't mean shit.

As other people suggested wear a hat if you are really uncomfortable about it.

Remember; it is about you not your hair.


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i wouldnt say im a very good looking bloke, probably a 5/6, however i train so im quite muscular (15st @ 15% bodyfat SPAM) so this brings my value up. i had my hair styled, it looks good and suits me. ive got some stubble which squares my jaw line out a bit, and finally i dress well (unless its fancy dress where i dress to look gay most of the time).

so when i wake lets say im a 5, when i get ready for uni im a 6, when i get ready for a night out im a 7/8. if u implement all these thing u move up quickly. my one down fall is i live at home and havent got much money but once i graduate ill have the lot, so i should average a 7 :D.

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it differs from girl to girl...however I would say in MOST cases good looks get you nothing more than initial attention....not attraction, but attention. Im good friends with a fair amount of attractive out going party girls (we all socialize together A LOT so they are very comfortable and experienced in social situations and get hit on often). Since i got into pick up, I sometimes just sit and observe their behavior with other guys, and i ask them questions later (which is great of course, fascinating to say the least). One thing that ive noticed is that I only ever HEAR them commenting about the good looking guy in the club, they never really DO anything about it like making themselves available by giving off IOI's and putting themselves in his proximity etc. it is simply eye candy for them, the looks do not necessarily attract them from what i have seen. People simply like to look at pretty things, like a new car or a colorful flower, they are nice to look at...but thats about it!
How can it be attention when two or more girls are talking about how hot/good looking some guy is? That is attraction. They are attracted to the guy. Its only on a physical level, and they are no means into the guy but its no different than a guy attracted to a hot girl are we into her no but we are attracted. As far as girls doing something about it like apporaching the guy I think that may be asking to much. For some reason guys still have to approach girls 99% of the time.
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When they actually DO get with the 'hot guy', its usually their ego wanting to be chosen by the hot guy in the club, and after that first kiss their ego is fill-fulled and theyre normally out of there pretty quickly! (UNLESS the guy has more game and actually ATTRACTS them). My girl friends that have boyfriends (a lot of them who are my friends) are average looking. None of the girls have ever been with a great looker for an extended period of time....why? its been mentioned before....incredibly good looking guys are rare (im talking 9 or 10)...but so are attractive personalities very rare (ie. a very skilled natural PUA for example) , now finding someone with BOTH is even more rare. my point is, they will only get into a serious relationships with a great looker that has good game, which i havent seen so far as its that rare. (by great looker i am referring to your hugo boss model type dudes).
I seen the hugo boss model with the hot girl all the time, but then again I live in the OC.


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it differs from girl to girl...however I would say in MOST cases good looks get you nothing more than initial attention....not attraction, but attention. Im good friends with a fair amount of attractive out going party girls (we all socialize together A LOT so they are very comfortable and experienced in social situations and get hit on often). Since i got into pick up, I sometimes just sit and observe their behavior with other guys, and i ask them questions later (which is great of course, fascinating to say the least). One thing that ive noticed is that I only ever HEAR them commenting about the good looking guy in the club, they never really DO anything about it like making themselves available by giving off IOI's and putting themselves in his proximity etc. it is simply eye candy for them, the looks do not necessarily attract them from what i have seen. People simply like to look at pretty things, like a new car or a colorful flower, they are nice to look at...but thats about it!
Good looks might not get more than initial attention... but GOOD Looking guys who KNOW they are good looking, can sure as hell generate a lot of attraction... when the girl first sees him, or if not - simply by looking at her. And we are not talking average girls here, we are talking about the hotties...

and these guys get girls doing things about it too all the time... i.e. showing obvious signs of interest such as:

repeatedly glancing over, staring or following the guy with her eyes... he walks this way, eyes follow, that way eyes follow... up the stairs, eyes follow - it is like those googly eyes*), smiling, magically appearing about a foot or 2 away, grabbing his hand as he walks by, stopping him for stupid questions about time, lighters, or just striking up a conversation, leaning over to talk to him (initiate conversation) if he is close by, jumping over to start talking having been a few meters away at first...

sometimes I think the girl is almost screaming at you to do something the way they look at you...

sometimes the air will just feel charged... don't know how to explain that properly, but for instance if a friend introduces you to a girl sometimes she will immediately react in such a way (no words from her or you yet) that it feels like there is this sexual energy flying through the air...

* one time I saw this HB8.5->HB9 (depending on your tastes) blonde girl doing that googly eyes thing, I told my buddy about it. 10 minutes later he comes back to me and says "here's her #" lol


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I seen the hugo boss model with the hot girl all the time, but then again I live in the OC.
Thats only because that 'Boss model' knows he is worthy of 'having' the hottie. If he only had his looks he would not last with her, well either that or she's very shallow and doesnt give a dam about settling down with someone that has a personality that she is not particularly attracted to at all. This is extremely rare so I would go with the former ie. he has self belief which enables him to keep the girl, not his looks.


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RECESSING HAIR LINE
I suffer from recessing hairline and i have decided to get over my fear and shave my hair to #1, 2 weeks ago, it's a premier. I look more bad then before and i thing it's a beneficial thing with girls.

PERFECT TIME TO BOOST PERSONALITY
It was a very good way to test my confidence and the perfect opportunity to develop my personality at a more higher level with less physical support. It's like to put an handicap on you and try to get better results in the same time.

IT'S LIKE A CHALLENGE
It will be Like a challenge to seduce without hairs, and even try to seduce girls that DON'T like a guy without hair. you will see that the work on yourself, the real efforts, will grow like 10 times in one shot and see the whole situation from another point of view totally.

AND NOT THAT BAD AFTER ALL
In the end i think it's a very good thing to do. Confidence is more important then a good hairline, living with the fear of lousing a magic item is contrary to confidence. I am surprised of the good comments i get from very beautiful girls, who likes shaved head.

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I seen the hugo boss model with the hot girl all the time, but then again I live in the OC.
Thats only because that 'Boss model' knows he is worthy of 'having' the hottie. If he only had his looks he would not last with her, well either that or she's very shallow and doesnt give a dam about settling down with someone that has a personality that she is not particularly attracted to at all. This is extremely rare so I would go with the former ie. he has self belief which enables him to keep the girl, not his looks.
I did say I live in the OC. :wink:


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Looks matter to a certain extent. They get the attention, but after that Its all about the game an individual can play out. I believe if you are not a good looking person make the other things shine that make you valuable. I have a strong believe that women like guys that make them laugh, dance, but at the same time don't lay all their cards on the table.


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I think they do matter, or at least gets you more attention. I found this out Saturday the day after Christmas. I'm normally a plain guy, but decided to dress a LiL better. (button down, tie and some jeans) when I met up with one of my lady friends that was the first thing she noticed. She said "who you trying to look so good for?", and that same night girls I didn't even know wanted to take pics with me, and I got ALOT of more dances oppose to the other times I went with just a plain colored tee.

So really they do matter but just initially.

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Looks do matter but they aren't that important for women. If looks would be so important, then by natural selection the males of the world would be as good looking as women. The fact that there are many good looking women out there is the proof that men chose hot looking women. On the other hand, the fact that men aren't as good looking as women clearly shows that women don't only select based on looks.


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