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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:35 pm 
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Some of you are and you fucking know it.

Some of you think you are not but you are.

Some of you don't know what it means.

The thing is . . . the World has a way of finding its equilibrium. You always hear, "She's such a pretty girl and so talented and so nice but . . . why can't she find a good guy?"

You ALL know the answer to this one: Because she is NOT pretty and NOT talented and NOT so nice that's why.

It's easy to point fingers but turn this thing around. Why can't some of you find hot, beautiful chicks who call you every weekend for the honor of sucking your cock? Well just read this forum.

Hey, I have nothing against "negs". It's certainly a factor in the World of PU and when it's applied well, EVERYBODY LAUGHS. Unfortunately, many of you misogynous freaks use it as an excuse to unleash your anger on otherwise happy, fun people. Can misogyny gain you pussy? Sad but true . . . the answer is yes. Too many times, some people are already programmed to believe that hatred is in fact an "ingredient" in loving relationships.

But will it gain you LOVE in return? The answer is NEVER. You will never gain respect from others. You will NEVER gain love from others. And most importantly, you will NEVER EVER feel the pure contentment that comes from "I love you . . . you love me." ---- Simple . . .

If you LACK female friends, ask yourself "why"? If you lack friends in general, ask yourself "why"? Do you truly believe that you lack a social network because you are this great, sociable guy but all the girls "misunderstand you"? If so, you are not only a misogynous freak but also delusional. It's simple math. You hate them, so they hate you. Be happy with it. It's WHAT YOU WANT.

If it's NOT what you want, then work your way OUT OF IT. Stop with this shit. I can see it. Anybody with half a brain can see it. All the girls around you can see it (That's why they hate you back)

Start from the beginning. Start what you should have learned as a 2 year old and drop all this PUA nonsense for now.


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As I have said on numerous occasions, you can't expect a girl to be batshit crazy about you unless you're willing to be batshit crazy about her first.

It goes without saying that the same principal can lead people in the complete opposite direction. Everyone should heed this warning.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:29 pm 
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I think people become misogynous because they realise that girls aren't all the goody two shoes people they always thought they were. They expect guys to be bad but not for girls, so really it's not the fact that girls are worse for cheating, worse for being gits, just they are as equally as bad and you didn't know it.

At least, that's what happened to me, most likely others.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:12 pm 
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I think people become misogynous because . . .blah, blah, blah . . . At least, that's what happened to me, most likely others.
Well . . . you gotta love "because" right? I mean . . .it's just an instant fixer-upper for everything under the sun isn't it?

"Hey, why did you beat your wife?"
"BECAUSE . . . blah, SOMETHING NOT HAVING TO DO WITH ME . ., blah, blah . . ."

"Hey, why did you just shoot those people?"
"BECAUSE . . . blah, SOMETHING NOT HAVING TO DO WITH ME . . blah, blah . . . "

With the examples above, the beaten wife and the dead people DO NOT CARE for "because". "BECAUSE" does not exist. "BECAUSE" is merely a pathetic attempt to shift responsibility of the meager SELF towards "make believe la-la land." People usually pull the "BECAUSE CARD" only when dealing with actions that are shameful, especially to themselves. They can't take the responsibility so they just go, "Because" . . .

Are you telling me some crazy past events FORCES a guy to take his fist and PUNCH his wife? Are you telling me some events or ways of the World are FORCING people TO HATE WOMEN? It's just a fucking decision. You can choose to eat a pizza or a hot dog for lunch. you can choose to pick up your fist and punch a girl or you can CHOOSE not to punch. You can choose to LOVE others or you can choose to HATE them. It's just a choice.

Hey, ever hear anybody pull the "BECAUSE CARD" when they ACHIEVE GREATNESS?

"I won the Gold medal because my friends and family made me do it. . . "
"Yeah . . . I climbed the K2 summit because my friends tricked me into it. . . ."

Make a shift.


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for starters, yet another great post kasabi.

This one inspired me too write one about "Bastard" PUA's.

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I think people become misogynous because . . .blah, blah, blah . . . At least, that's what happened to me, most likely others.
Well . . . you gotta love "because" right? I mean . . .it's just an instant fixer-upper for everything under the sun isn't it?

"Hey, why did you beat your wife?"
"BECAUSE . . . blah, SOMETHING NOT HAVING TO DO WITH ME . ., blah, blah . . ."

"Hey, why did you just shoot those people?"
"BECAUSE . . . blah, SOMETHING NOT HAVING TO DO WITH ME . . blah, blah . . . "

With the examples above, the beaten wife and the dead people DO NOT CARE for "because". "BECAUSE" does not exist. "BECAUSE" is merely a pathetic attempt to shift responsibility of the meager SELF towards "make believe la-la land." People usually pull the "BECAUSE CARD" only when dealing with actions that are shameful, especially to themselves. They can't take the responsibility so they just go, "Because" . . .

Are you telling me some crazy past events FORCES a guy to take his fist and PUNCH his wife? Are you telling me some events or ways of the World are FORCING people TO HATE WOMEN? It's just a fucking decision. You can choose to eat a pizza or a hot dog for lunch. you can choose to pick up your fist and punch a girl or you can CHOOSE not to punch. You can choose to LOVE others or you can choose to HATE them. It's just a choice.

Hey, ever hear anybody pull the "BECAUSE CARD" when they ACHIEVE GREATNESS?

"I won the Gold medal because my friends and family made me do it. . . "
"Yeah . . . I climbed the K2 summit because my friends tricked me into it. . . ."

Make a shift.
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Are you telling me some crazy past events FORCES a guy to take his fist and PUNCH his wife?
No.
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Are you telling me some events or ways of the World are FORCING people TO HATE WOMEN?
No.
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You can choose to eat a pizza or a hot dog for lunch
Yeah I can, because I am HUNGRY.
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you can choose to pick up your fist and punch a girl or you can CHOOSE not to punch.
Yes well done, this is nothing relevant to what I said but yes, you're right. You can also choose not to hate women but if past experiences have led you to hate them, then that might not be easy.
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Hey, ever hear anybody pull the "BECAUSE CARD" when they ACHIEVE GREATNESS?

"I won the Gold medal because my friends and family made me do it. . . "
"Yeah . . . I climbed the K2 summit because my friends tricked me into it. . . ."
Or how about "I won the Gold medal because I am dedicated and I love what I do."

Or "I climbed the K2 summit because I wanted to".

I get your point, you don't need to explain it again. But everything (or most things) are like how they are for a reason; whether it be good or bad. It works both ways.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:15 pm 
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Trix,

1. Read what I wrote here:

2-vt57668.html?start=15

2. Think about it a little bit . . .
3. See if there are other ways you could perceive this situation.

That's about it.


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I read it, and since it doesn't apply to me (I don't suck and I'm completely happy with my life whatever you may try and tell me) I don't really need to think of it.

You replied to me personally with a load of stuff that isn't relevant to what I said, but interesting regardless. I don't know how different I can perceive that. Maybe post it at the topic and not at me.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:20 pm 
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I am not misogynous.
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I think people become misogynous because they realise that girls aren't all the goody two shoes people they always thought they were. They expect guys to be bad but not for girls, so really it's not the fact that girls are worse for cheating, worse for being gits, just they are as equally as bad and you didn't know it.

At least, that's what happened to me, most likely others.
I used to be (I should have made it more clear but didn't think anyone would make me the topic like you said), but then I realised equally as there are nice boys and dickhead boys, there are nice girls and there are dickhead girls - when I was an AFC at 16 I stupidly thought I all girls were nice and trustworthy; now I've seen another side of them I know it's not true so it tarnished my view of girls.

At one point I'd had sex with more girls with boyfriends than without boyfriends, four in a row in fact, and they didn't seem to think it was a big deal and only told me afterwards. At an immature 18 that was just what I assumed, that women were pieces of trash and I shouldn't get a gfThat ratio has since changed as I've met some nice girls who have made me realised that there are nasty pieces of work on both sexes, it's no a sex thing but a personality issue, like there are bastard puas and there are bastard players. I've only just turned 19 now, but I've done more maturing in the past year than I have in all the other years.


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From the link:
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1. You kids lack self esteem.
2. So you can't take ANY criticism what so ever because "ohhhh, it hurts your little pride".
3. So you defend your little heart by lashing out with lies, "No . . . I am the best. My cube technique is the best . . .I know I got game!"
4. You go out and show off your total SUCKINESS to the World and they laugh at your face.
5. You suffer another little dent in your thin-walled self esteem.
5. Hey! Let's go back to #1 on the list and do this again!

Trix's initial post = Demonstration of 1
Second post = 2
Third post = 3

Are you just fucking with us or what?


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well .. i have to say im fucked up.....

i have this tarnished imaged of woman... i actually hate most woman ( not all ).
i just suffered sever pain and have the tendancy to be careless and cover up my emotions by being a cynical + sarcastic dick ( to some degree ).

THE i don't give a fuck mindset works , just don't give a fuck and say everything you want. if this becomes part of you each relationship will suffer.
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You can't "talk yourself" into feeling less hurt by what others think of you
this is so true ...

i start living up the points of both thread , i already have such mindset but im very aware of it.

the coolest fucker on the planet is the one who retains himself, even your ex GF insulted you cheated on you and secretly aborted the pregnancy you should stay cool and not lower yourself into lower levels that others present.

kasabi .. the problem is ...i found beautiful hot chicks who sucked my cock every weekend, i don't even want to get my cock sucked anymore - i want a good relationship with someone who's worht it.
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But will it gain you LOVE in return? The answer is NEVER. You will never gain respect from others. You will NEVER gain love from others. And most importantly, you will NEVER EVER feel the pure contentment that comes from "I love you . . . you love me
the more you manipulate and control the attraction and seduction .. the less love you feel, you can't program love into you and you can't program other into loving you. Negging - overnegging and overgaming will really really fuck up the basic relationship values.
i can be very nice and very sociable but often i manipulate people into loving me and when i starting to love them i realize how fucked up i've started out.
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Yes well done, this is nothing relevant to what I said but yes, you're right. You can also choose not to hate women but if past experiences have led you to hate them, then that might not be easy.
yes.....

im very self concious of my behavior and i know what im doing.... but i can't stop hating woman to some degree ..... i talked to shrinks i talked to therapists but nothing helps because they didn't experience the same shit - they don't know what it's like. it's not like i punch woman or something....

the whole i don't give a fuck mindset comes out of emotional pains in the past inflicted by other woman. it's just a way to cover up your pain and emotions.

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1. You kids lack self esteem.
2. So you can't take ANY criticism what so ever because "ohhhh, it hurts your little pride".
3. So you defend your little heart by lashing out with lies, "No . . . I am the best. My cube technique is the best . . .I know I got game!"
4. You go out and show off your total SUCKINESS to the World and they laugh at your face.
5. You suffer another little dent in your thin-walled self esteem.
5. Hey! Let's go back to #1 on the list and do this again!

1. lacks self esteem, lacks self esteem to confront yourself with the truth and stick to a certain believe out of self protection. if i confront myself with everything i probably lose my self esteem. ( already happening now )

2. i actually am unaffected by critisism because the emotions they cause are zero im comparison of what i've been through.

3. lashing out with lies happens when you've get into a relationship .. to cover up number 1 and the cause of number one is known. to be honest i don't give a shit if my technique is the best... when you think your the best you will stop learning.

4. i can't relate 4 to myself.

5. is correct but this is also related to number 1.... not giving a shit keeps you from suffering from number 5

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From the link:
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1. You kids lack self esteem.
2. So you can't take ANY criticism what so ever because "ohhhh, it hurts your little pride".
3. So you defend your little heart by lashing out with lies, "No . . . I am the best. My cube technique is the best . . .I know I got game!"
4. You go out and show off your total SUCKINESS to the World and they laugh at your face.
5. You suffer another little dent in your thin-walled self esteem.
5. Hey! Let's go back to #1 on the list and do this again!

Trix's initial post = Demonstration of 1
Second post = 2
Third post = 3

Are you just fucking with us or what?
Are you just fucking with me or what?

I don't lack self esteem. Let me guess you're going to say I'm trying to 'validate/qualify myself' to you by saying that, then go on to use a whole load of assumpions springing from that?

The second post I don't like being criticised for being misogynous when I'm not, like I said I should have made that clear in post #1.

You're calling me a liar now? I'm not lashing out with lies of any sort. I've never said 'I am the best' or proclaimed my greatness. Why on earth would I lie to a group of forumers who I am never going to meet? I use an anonymous username for that reason.

Stop trolling/making assumptions about me and using a slippery slope on said assumptions. It's annoying. If you have nothing useful to say don't reply to my posts.


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From the link:
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1. You kids lack self esteem.
2. So you can't take ANY criticism what so ever because "ohhhh, it hurts your little pride".
3. So you defend your little heart by lashing out with lies, "No . . . I am the best. My cube technique is the best . . .I know I got game!"
4. You go out and show off your total SUCKINESS to the World and they laugh at your face.
5. You suffer another little dent in your thin-walled self esteem.
5. Hey! Let's go back to #1 on the list and do this again!

Trix's initial post = Demonstration of 1
Second post = 2
Third post = 3

Are you just fucking with us or what?
Are you just fucking with me or what?

I don't lack self esteem. Let me guess you're going to say I'm trying to 'validate/qualify myself' to you by saying that, then go on to use a whole load of assumpions springing from that?

The second post I don't like being criticised for being misogynous when I'm not, like I said I should have made that clear in post #1.

You're calling me a liar now? I'm not lashing out with lies of any sort. I've never said 'I am the best' or proclaimed my greatness. Why on earth would I lie to a group of forumers who I am never going to meet? I use an anonymous username for that reason.

Stop trolling/making assumptions about me and using a slippery slope on said assumptions. It's annoying. If you have nothing useful to say don't reply to my posts.

lolol dude.

I hate to pick sides but,


kasabi's posts>yours


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Are you telling me some crazy past events FORCES a guy to take his fist and PUNCH his wife? Are you telling me some events or ways of the World are FORCING people TO HATE WOMEN? It's just a fucking decision. You can choose to eat a pizza or a hot dog for lunch. you can choose to pick up your fist and punch a girl or you can CHOOSE not to punch. You can choose to LOVE others or you can choose to HATE them. It's just a choice.

Hey, ever hear anybody pull the "BECAUSE CARD" when they ACHIEVE GREATNESS?

"I won the Gold medal because my friends and family made me do it. . . "
"Yeah . . . I climbed the K2 summit because my friends tricked me into it. . . ."

Make a shift.
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