Ok, practice makes perfect.. so the past few months while occasionally sarging and practicing, I have been developing ways to DHV and present myself.

I always avoid saying anything about me when I am not asked, so I wait for the usual questions like "So, what do you do?", "What do you study?".. etc..

I ve done an art&design foundation, a graphics degree and now I m on my second degree on architecture (just started). Usually this whole thing sounds quite interesting to them, and I even avoid mentioning the foundation since its not that important anyway - I only do when asked again..
This usually is followed by them asking me how come I do a 2nd degree blah blah and always turns out good..

NOW, I have one more card to play on this (on what I do), and this is me being a dj and also trying to make it as a music producer.. Even though it sounds cool, I cant find a way of saying it without sounding like I m braging.. There is no direct question about it since its not my main thing, and adding it on top of the other 2(3) is too much so again sounds like bragging..
I usually have a friend metion it, which leads to her asking "Really??? So you are a dj aswel??", and me not knowing what to say.. I ususally go like.. "Well. yes" and smile.. which is quite stupid.
Sometimes I try to fit it in questions like "What music do you like?" where I answer "Well mostly house but this is because I play house as a dj etc.." which sounds like braggin as well..

Sorry for the wall of text but I would appreciate some help How do you DHV without bragging at all?? As Style sais, when you are rich or cool you dont have to say it.. people can tell.. but what if they ask you?

PS. While re-reading my questions I figured I'm also asking this: How should I respond to an indirect compliment like the "Ohh so you are dj as well?" ?? It's a compliment since she seems excited about what I do but its not a statement so you cant just say "Thank you" and you end up saying something lame like "well..yep" etc.. so please help

Yeah man, like you're saying, you want to convey it without saying it.

Talk about your ambitions with passion (always talk with passion...they dig it). Talk about how you have this crazy goal of DJ'ing at the biggest nightclub in your country and how amazing it's going to be and make it exciting and fun. Have a clear, concise and set goal of what you want.

It makes you sound ambitious and passionate. It also says that you have big goals and more important things to do than chase girls and normal bullshit; it's high-value too.

DHV is completely unnecessary, even if you are not rich and cool.
Sexual attraction and satisfaction has absolutely nothing to do with what you do, it is about who you are and how you behave!

If you act like a man (like an alpha male) there is no need to DHV, it is simply a waste of time.

I have experimented with telling women that I'm completely broke and have no job even within sight and they still fall for me only because I build up the attraction with my nonverbal communication and that I say the right things to them instead of just blabbering on about a made up exciting life.

I realized I may have come off a bit like a douche there, I didn't mean to be rude. But what I'm trying to say is that if you behave like an alpha male, master how to build a psychological connection and comfort zone then the words that you say has no meaning, you can tell her that you are Bill Gates or that you are a hobo, she will still fall for you!

Now you seem to live a very interesting life anyways, so try to tone that down, mention it only if she really drags it out of you, women love getting unexpected positive surprises like that.

As a personal example, I work as a personal trainer, and one of my major hobbies is free climbing, women are usually very impressed when I mention these things, so I try not to, that's what I do, not who I am! I don't want a woman to hang around me just to get free advice in how to stay in shape. She should hang around me because she is attracted to me as a person or she can go F*** herself.

I hope you see where I'm coming from with this, if you have any questions in how to pull this off just ask!

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Slywalker, I totally agree with you and I know what you mean! I don't use DHV anyway but women as these kind of questions anyway, so my problem is how to answer without sounding like I m bragging!

I also agree on not saying anything unless they ask, as I said. Especially the dj thing I try to never mention it and whenever someone else does they don't expect it and it always turns out really good!

So in your case for example, what do you say to something like "Ohh so you do free climbing!!" or to something like "So whats like your favorite thing to do as a hobby??".

I m guessing something good would be to immediately go passionate about it like "Well yea I LOVE free climbing, I do it whenever I find time and it just frees my mind bshit bshit bshit.." ? Right?

maybe this can help you with this problem:

sorry i can't post links yet so copy paste this in youtube:

Mysterys grooming sequence Mystery PUA Pick Up Artists

it's a movie of mystery explaining how you can build stories.
instead of just saying you're a dj you make a story of it.

Imo and no offense but i think your both off base. However I agree with everything you said about being ALPHA. If you want to demonstrate higher value, u need to demonstrate it in a seductive manner. What i mean by this is that, you being a DJ is not going to make her attracted to you and ok your talking about your degrees not needed. Intelligence can be demonstrated through skillful wordplay, obviously because be fluent and elegant speaker requires intelligence. Ok if you wanna DHV you must introduce it in a cocky funny way. Tell a story about how girls love sucking dick in the car and u cant figure out why. Bring up the fact that you dated a pornstar and fluff it off like its NOT EVEN COOL. I emphasize this, yah it may be cool to them that jenna jameson was once sucking ur cock on a regular basis but to you??? ITS NO BIG DEAL cuz IT HAPPENS ALOT.
For example, i do MMA hardcore and when they ask if i work out or comment on my muscles i say "nah its just from traning" Then they ask what i train for and i say im a professional pillow fighter. They laugh usually, idc either way. I quickly them my fucked up knuckles at that point and point to a couple scars on my face its ez to see because my knuckles are FUCKED. Then i say "well you know what maybe i do throw down once in a while and give them a wink. Ofcourse at this point i usually dismiss them like i could care less about them especially if its going well or they are super hot.
-Im pure fucking mack bussin guys... i fucked this girl who was a model last night

DO YOU FEEL ME?

Honestly, the as slywalker said, the DHV is not as important as how you present yourself. So for your example, if they go like, "oh so you're (insert whatever interesting attribute here) as well?" I usually go like, "yea, its awesome.. Actually that reminds me, you have to listen to this.... --> Go on to story about some interesting DJ moments or something ."

Make sure you keep your positive relaxed alpha energy up. Build the state, intrigue her, but moreover, intrigue yourself.

Thanks for all the answers that was really helpful!

Slywalker, there is definitely truth to what you say. But for people who haven't read up on alpha male characteristic guides, we can say that DHVing is effective. Could you recommend me some stuff to hone those skills you are talking about? right now, AFC James (that's me) is just beginning to learn the game and has started with the mystery method which was mind-blowing. But I am beginning to see that Pick-Up is like mixed martial arts. You have to learn many styles and techniques in order to be really good. Thanks mate, Cheers.

A lot of "good" pick up material contradicts this, mystery method for one thing. Mystery himself has such experience and when you see him in his videos he acts very alpha (opposite from Neils Strauss who acts like a gay smurf) but there is nothing in Mysterys material that teaches you to be alpha, only stuff that teaches you how to fake it. As a matter of fact, much of the material in the game, mystery method and RSD is material that's made to give a Beta male a chance to fuck up the game of an Alpha male, I know this is strong critique and hard for some to accept but there is a lot of truth in it.

So to become alpha and to act like an alpha you can't really fake it with routines and stories, you have to do it and practice it until you glow of confidence.

One PUA writer who covers a lot of this is David DeAngelo, in his book "attraction is not a choice" he describes very detailed what to think about and what not to do.
He also has many great videos on youtube touching the subject.

And you are spot on in your metphor of mixed martial arts, I have read material from many (at least 10) different PUA writers, my favorites were David DeAngelo, Vincent DiCarlo, and Ross Jeffries. And now I have developed my own method of pick up, no routines or rehearsed stories, just a confident direct and very NLP influenced game.

If you want to go out sarging and acting aplha, you have to believe that you are the biggest price out there, not like a sneaky ninja who stabs girls in the back with some canned routine.
You have to believe that everyone looks up to YOU, so when you approach someone, you are always a little cooler that them, and sice you are cooler than them there is no need to DHV or to neg, because you are already superior, and if you know it, and you glow of it, they will feel it!
This may sound like fiction but this is how it's done! This is where naturals have it easy, they were born with this quality!

David DeAngelos cocky comedy is great warm up for this, actually, in the position you describe yourself to be in.. read a couple of DeAngelo books they will put you on the right track, they are short and fast to read, so two weeks from now when you are done studying them, you can go out and practice your alpha game!

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You know what my problem is?? I ve reached the point well I actually feel alpha when I m out especially but then I havent master the rest that much So I think you need both!!
And another thing its way easier to be and feel alpha and have all the energy at night and maybe after one or two drinks than on a normal boring day, during mid-day or smth..