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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:32 am 
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It's midnight in New York as I write this, and after reviewing my own natural attitude towards gaming, I stumbled upon an amazing discovery, and how anyone from an AFC to a PUA could use it to their utmost advantage.

If the average six year old male child had a sex drive, he would be the greatest natural pickup artist in the world.

Some of you may be utterly clueless as to why I'm saying this, but hear me out here:

1) 6 year olds are not bound by any certain set of rules that society has taught them. Therefore, they use simple but effective methods of getting what they want.

2) 6 year olds, and young children in general, have a veil of innocence associated with them. No matter what they do, it will be acceptable because of their age. In this manner, they do no create social awkwardness.

3) 6 year olds are perceived as adorable by almost everyone.

If the average six year old male child had a sex drive, there would be no women left in this planet for any guy over the age of 12.

There's a lot to learn from 6 yer olds, and although we are not covered by a veil of innocence or an unconditional acceptance of our actions, we could all use to bring a little bit of 6 year old behavior into our natural game.

How can we do this?

1) Use simple but effective ways of getting what you want. When a 6 year old wants attention, he doesn't open a group in any conventional manner. And while there's nothing wrong with the conventional manner, the 6 year olds has a method of his own. He picks up a small object and throws it at his target. Voila, he now has their attention

I'm not saying to go pick up a wrench and throw it at the cutest girl in your path. I'm saying use something like a crumpled piece of paper. Sound crazy? I've tested it. It works like a charm - whether you use it to open a completely stranger, or a potential flirt who hasn't noticed you a few feet away.

So never doubt the effectiveness of the simplest approach possible. Usually it is these ridiculously simple approaches that stand out more than any other.

2) Don't create social awkwardness. The reason a 6 year old can get away with nearly anything is that he doesn't know better. In his mind, there's nothing wrong with what he did. And with a similar mindset, you can create the same effect he does.

If you say or do something that would regularly be seen as outlandish or overboard, your attitude towards the situation can make others feel like it's just a normal habit of yours. They will become comfortable because you're comfortable.

Now, this theory has boundaries, and I'll let you place them wherever you need them to be, but there is truth that inner game comfort will reflect positively in your outer game.

3) Be adorable. Sound hard? It's not. If you can naturally put the first two points into place, you will end up with an approach that stands out and that lets you stand out in a positive way. You don't have to do anything out of the ordinary (although it doesn't hurt to try) but if you keep your plan simple (that doesn't necessarily mean direct, just simple) and you show self-comfort in your attitude, you will create a positive image of yourself for others to view.

That's my discovery of something to add to your natural game.

PS: This "6 Year Old Theory" of mine does not need to be as outlandish as my example of throwing a piece of paper at someone, but I will note that I have done this both to open to a stranger and while I while they were talking to me (mid sentence) and as long as I kept a positive, comfortable attitude, it has never steered me wrong.


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I like where your getting at. That is key I believe to being a natural-- never grow up, but don't be immature. Be light haerted, free spirited, and free from the conforming ways of society.


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VERY interesting read. However, lot's of 6 y/o's are shy/AFC as hell... so even with or without sexdrive they would act weird... and perhaps not get it...

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Nice post Ace! Totally got where you were going with it. Acting on that which you want and not worrying about social conceptions is the way to go. Of course with boundaries...lol


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As interesting as that sounds, the idea that a 6 year old with a sex drive being the ultimate PUA is completely moronic. There is no right minded girl on this planet who would fuck a six year old. Girls think children and babies are cute in the same way girls think bunnies and puppies are cute, and girls aren't fucking many bunnies or puppies.

Your "Be Adorable" bit had nothing to do with being adorable, just simplifying. You know what else children do to get attention? They cry on purpose, and yell, and hit. Children are not geniuses that just don't tap their potential, you're reading into something that isn't there. The reason children don't have those social standards is because they must be taught. They have the same ability to become a PUA as they do the ability to become rapists. It's the most direct path to getting what they want, it's socially unacceptable (just like them having sex), but they don't care, and they're adorable so people don't get afraid of them.

All you really said was "simplify, and be positive", and threw in a "don't be awkard" blurb. I have no idea how you didn't already hear this from all the material there is out there, and instead learned it from watching children. This wasn't a revolutionary idea, it was hardly even an improvement on already available information.

(for the record, 6 year old children don't get away with everything. You cite me an instance of a child killing someone and getting off because "he doesn't know any better".)


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I think this 6 year old metaphor is not perfect, but it is still revealing.
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I think this 6 year old metaphor is not perfect, but it is still revealing.
Thank you :)
And, what exactly did it reveal, that others haven't revealed already? Outside of the metaphor, what information was new?


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A important pàrt of this metaphor is that a six year old is not threatening.
Thats really important, just read "Love in the Time of Cholera" and you'll get what I'm saying here. That Florentino Ariza dude was a player. Also six year olds tend to be "sweet" and "cute".... and not sexual.

Sometimes I feel that pick up artist have a rather masculine aproach on the whole philosophy of this stuff. I've never seen a post on how to be "sweet" or romantic. I'm aware that some dudes wrote about those things, but they did it with different words and not extensively.

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I think this 6 year old metaphor is not perfect, but it is still revealing.
Thank you :)
And, what exactly did it reveal, that others haven't revealed already? Outside of the metaphor, what information was new?
The metaphor is what was new. Gives a new spin on what has been said before. In this way, it is revealing in that it aids in the understanding on what has been established.

There is hardly any new groundbreaking information every day, but it steps forward a little at a time. Any idea you have about PUA should be written in this forum.

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Thank you :)
And, what exactly did it reveal, that others haven't revealed already? Outside of the metaphor, what information was new?
The metaphor is what was new. Gives a new spin on what has been said before. In this way, it is revealing in that it aids in the understanding on what has been established.

There is hardly any new groundbreaking information every day, but it steps forward a little at a time. Any idea you have about PUA should be written in this forum.
Why does it have to be masked or re interpreted into a metaphor? What's wrong with looking at something the way it is?

And even so, I did argue on why the metaphor didn't work in my mind. The metaphor simply showed that children aren't bound by social standards, and that is somehow admirable and beneficial. A colossal flaw in this is that an adult male IS bound by social standards. Throwing a tantrum is not acceptable behavior for an adult, even if he believes himself to be above social standards.

Now social standards aren't laws, but let's see the tantrum man get many interesting friends and women. I'm saying if you thought about horny 6 year olds, genius isn't what should come to mind, and neither should hot, sought after women having sex with the horny 6 year olds...I think that makes it a poor metaphor.


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And, what exactly did it reveal, that others haven't revealed already? Outside of the metaphor, what information was new?
The metaphor is what was new. Gives a new spin on what has been said before. In this way, it is revealing in that it aids in the understanding on what has been established.

There is hardly any new groundbreaking information every day, but it steps forward a little at a time. Any idea you have about PUA should be written in this forum.
Why does it have to be masked or re interpreted into a metaphor? What's wrong with looking at something the way it is?

And even so, I did argue on why the metaphor didn't work in my mind. The metaphor simply showed that children aren't bound by social standards, and that is somehow admirable and beneficial. A colossal flaw in this is that an adult male IS bound by social standards. Throwing a tantrum is not acceptable behavior for an adult, even if he believes himself to be above social standards.

Now social standards aren't laws, but let's see the tantrum man get many interesting friends and women. I'm saying if you thought about horny 6 year olds, genius isn't what should come to mind, and neither should hot, sought after women having sex with the horny 6 year olds...I think that makes it a poor metaphor.
What's the point in any metaphor?

I don't agree completely with the metaphor and we have all agreed that its flawed. I definitely see your reasoning, it makes sense.

The metaphor did, though, add a new perspective to it. Obviously don't take this to the extreme and throw a tantrum if you don't win a game or something stupid, but take what is valuable from this and discard the flaws: as another person posted, be light hearted and free spirited, and don't let social standards set your barriers for you. This is why the metaphor is valuable.

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The metaphor is what was new. Gives a new spin on what has been said before. In this way, it is revealing in that it aids in the understanding on what has been established.

There is hardly any new groundbreaking information every day, but it steps forward a little at a time. Any idea you have about PUA should be written in this forum.
Why does it have to be masked or re interpreted into a metaphor? What's wrong with looking at something the way it is?

And even so, I did argue on why the metaphor didn't work in my mind. The metaphor simply showed that children aren't bound by social standards, and that is somehow admirable and beneficial. A colossal flaw in this is that an adult male IS bound by social standards. Throwing a tantrum is not acceptable behavior for an adult, even if he believes himself to be above social standards.

Now social standards aren't laws, but let's see the tantrum man get many interesting friends and women. I'm saying if you thought about horny 6 year olds, genius isn't what should come to mind, and neither should hot, sought after women having sex with the horny 6 year olds...I think that makes it a poor metaphor.
I don't agree completely with the metaphor and we have all agreed that its flawed. I definitely see your reasoning, it makes sense.

The metaphor did, though, add a new perspective to it. Obviously don't take this to the extreme and throw a tantrum if you don't win a game or something stupid, but take what is valuable from this and discard the flaws: as another person posted, be light hearted and free spirited, and don't let social standards set your barriers for you. This is why the metaphor is valuable.
I just don't understand what social barriers could possibly be in your way that 6 year old could get over...what are you attempting to do to this girl? Using an untainted, untrained (in terms of social standards) mindset, what could you do differently in a situation? Try and think of an exact situation, not a vague idea.

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The point in a metaphor should be to get an attribute across. Cold as ice (ice is cold), the rain came pouring down like long needles (heavier rain, especially with ice, can feel that way), "Memory is a crazy woman that hoards colored rags and throws away food." Austin O'Malley (this represents how your memory keeps useless things and gets rid of what you need).

Now picture "As seductive as a six year old."


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I see what you're trying to get at.

Nurture your inner child.

I've found that having a good inner child allows you to be more carefree and at the same time make your girl more carefree.

This reminds me of Peter Pan. Being young in spirit allows you to have some pretty awesome adventures.


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