Well, my ex is dating someone else but I found this girl that will pretend to be my gf to see if it makes her jealous. She is going to pretend to be friends with her.

What should I do? Should I get my fake gf to say to her that I still have feelings for her or should I just get her to make my ex jealous by saying that me and her are having a good time and doing good?

This link is to an older topic I posted and it has info about what happened before me and my ex broke up and what lead to it:

my-confusing-ex-vt57334.html

If I can't get my ex back, than I want to get revenge. My ex has a college account where she does some of her work online and finds out when things are due, etc. I have her account and pass for it. What could I do to maybe get her kicked out of college? Technically, she is in high school but she is taking both high school and college class there.

Should I get on to her account and maybe say some stuff to her professors? What should I say using her account?

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Shit doesn't just happen. It happens because you make it happen.

Start by not being such a bitch.

Sorry pal, but I mean it.

The girl who's pretending to be your GF is either VERY into you or is pitying you.

Think about how much she thinks you're a loser right now. Think about how much your EX will consider you a loser when she finds out your GF is fake and you still have feelings for her.

Guess what? You probably are a loser. Not meaning this in an harmful way. Losers are underated.

Forget about all these people, take a bath, shave, buy some new clothes and hit downtown. Start by just making small talk with hotties you pass.

Once you got that done, you can start doing more advanced stuff.

AND FORGET YOUR FUCKING EX AND YOUR FUCKING REVENGE. THEY ARE LEADING YOU NOWHERE.

First, ignore attractor's comment. Attractor: this forum does not tolerate flaming. If you are going to share criticism, use tact. That's a big lesson in PUA anyway- start now.

Now, your problem, Haytori. I'm going to go ahead and take a shot at some details...

You're a HS senior/ college freshman and you were in a dating relationship with this girl for more than 3 months but less than 1 year. You were in love with her but for some reason she broke up with you relatively out of the blue, probably for the new BF. Am I right so far? You tried to get back together but she didn't want anything to do with you. Your heart pretty much got stomped on. You want her back more than anything, or at least just get rid of the pain.

Does that fit your situation pretty well?

Lesson #1: We've been there too. What you are going through has happened to the vast majority of the guys in this community. You are not the first person to have this happen to you, so try to keep this experience in perspective. Things seem very bad right now, but if you try to remove yourself from the emotional roller coaster, you'll find that things are not as bad as you might think.

Lesson #2: Never act in anger. About the revenge thing. Listen, revenge is not as great as it sounds. Messing up her bank account? How does that help? Messing up her finances is a pretty serious CRIME, and so your revenge runs you a good chance of getting prosecuted. Do you want to ruin your life and serve 2-5 because of your ex? No, sir you do not. No matter how angry you may be with someone, acting irrationally with Ne-HEH-HEH-ver work.

Lesson #3: Lying doesn't help. Using another girl to pose as a GF only makes you look worse. Yes, I've tried it. Yes, I got caught with it. You always will. Yes, I looked pretty stupid because of it. Honestly dude, lies are only good if you KNOW you will get away with them 100% forever. The "here's my pretend girlfriend" lie works about 0.0% of the time.

Lesson #4: Think like a PUA. Let's go through your responses the right way... You two broke up. If your relationship is over, let it be OVER. By trying to hold on to something that doesn't exist, you are limiting your potential and making things worse than they already are.

The fake GF thing telegraphs your intentions to your ex. She knows that she's getting to you, and she is being rewarded for your behavior. You need to sit down and think very carefully about how much you are showing neediness. Are you acting Alpha with your behavior? What would Mystery or Style do in a situation like this? You need to find and change the *beta male* reactions that you've been running with so far.

You are experiencing a withdrawl of positive energy from your relationship. Instead of wasting your need for approval, harness your frustration, embrace the pain, and make your anxiety work for you. Make yourself busy by doing clubs/sports/social fun. Isolating yourself isn't going to help. Focus your attention on learning how to connect with other girls- BETTER girls. The best way to overcome oneitis is to have great experiences with a dozen fresh girls, then decide if you current oneitis is worth the trouble.

Make this experience work FOR you and not AGAINST you.

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-The good can never be measured, but the great can never be controlled-

You said what I said in a friendlier manner.

And I didn't flame at all. At some more down, darker times, people NEED to be roughed up a bit.

Most of that is correct except she didn't leave me for that guy. She broke up with me before that. I don't even know if she is in a relationship or not. On her facebook it says she is and usually she would make it say who it was but this time she didn't. I think that she MIGHT just be trying to make me jealous or piss me off.

Well, I made it seem like I broke up with the fake gf. She begged for me to come back to her and I denied it and said that I didn't want anything serious right now. Will that help my chances a little bit cause this shows that I don't need anyone and that I'm an alpha male.

Well, with most of my exes I end up getting some kind of revenge on them and that is what helps me get over them. That's why I either want her back or get revenge.

I have dirt on her. She said that she use to do drugs a lot and everything. She doesn't now though but I could probably manipulate events where she would have to be tested for drugs like if she gets a job and I call where she works at and tell them about it.

I don't have her bank account. I have her account where she does college work and talks to her teachers. I could maybe get her kicked out of college.

Thanks for the help so far guys. I probably won't go through with the revenge thing since I'm almost over her but please give me some advice on that.

For the most part, I'll probably move on though.

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Shit doesn't just happen. It happens because you make it happen.

Despite the terms used for pua, this isn't a game, this is real life. You don't win or lose by hurting other people. Don't be petty. If you really had any feelings for this girl at some point or really cared about her at all, why would you want to hurt her? Inflicting pain, just leads to more pain. Hurting her won't make you hurt any less, and it won't make you happier at all.

Your problem right now is that you feel like you have had your "control" taken away from you. You feel like certain things are beyond your control right now and you want to reassert your control over it again. You want to manipulate and hurt your ex, because that is the only way you think you can control her again.

In life though, we have to accept certain things are simply beyond our control. She left, and it sucks. You wish you could change it, and put everything back the way it was. But you can't, and accepting that is the first step in moving on. The only thing you control in life is yourself. You can choose to start over and move on to better things. But if you continue to try and control, that which you can not, you will only cause yourself more prolonged suffering.

Also, if word gets around that you go out on some mad revenge spree every time some girl hurts your feelings none are going to want anything to do with you at all..

Just drop it and move on.

Yeah, I just have to reiterate that you CANNOT go about getting revenge like that. Find other, healthier methods of coping like getting back out and meeting other girls. Acting out in revenge just shows that she still has control over you. You'll probably get into more trouble than she will for messing with her personal accounts. You'd be dealing with forgery at the very least.

I've been in a LTR and I know that LTRs create a buildup of emotions...but you can't let that control you. Show that you are a better man, take the lessons you learned, and move on with your life. Being happy while being single is the best way to show her that you are independent and a good man.

Maybe your right guys. Maybe I just THOUGHT I loved her. I don't know if I really did or not. Maybe I just want someone to love me. Maybe I just wanted someone to do stuff with. Maybe I just wanted power over another human being.

Who knows?

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Shit doesn't just happen. It happens because you make it happen.

Well.. you probably did love her on some level.. but you don't take break ups very well; put it this way.. would you really want to be in a LTR with someone who is so volatile that they'd explode in your face after one little arguement..?

dont think so..

you're just being a fuckin' dick if you want go and spread shit about her past with drugs, screw up her school accounts etc. It's just low, very low.

You should acknowledge the fact that SHE is a total fuckwit and you should start reverting this obsessive thoughts to something more productive.. like gaming the shit out of this "fake gf" of yours.. (dude.. it sounds just pathetic trying to pull off stuff like this..) or go out and actually pick women at clubs and bars!..

You're in college for christ sake! dont squander the best years of your life farting about over how some love smitten fling ended up sour..

Grow up.

You know this may seem harsh - it is, but it is something you really need to hear.

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"They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.." - Gunwitch

Actually, I'm a high school senior, getting ready for college.

It might be because I'm use to being the one that does the breaking up. This is about the second time someone has broken up with me. I don't know for sure, I sort of lost count of how many girls I've dated and I don't even remember all of them that I've dated.

Should I just forget about her and act as if she never existed? Or should I remember her so I don't make the same mistakes again?

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Shit doesn't just happen. It happens because you make it happen.

Acting as she never existed is a good way to repeat the mistakes, it's a real good way to totally distort you're veiw of relationship dynamics and choice; making you possibly the most ignorant man person possible for a woman to be with.

you always have to learn from your mistakes; everything we do in life is a lesson, absolutly everything. Sometime is takes a few attempts to actually learn the lesson but you will learn it eventually..

i'm still curious as to why you really wanted to lash out like that other a relationship that (well lets face it) didn't even last that long.. it doesn't leave a good image with yourself that if after a bad break up that you totally slander the other person involved.. sure, by all means tell her how you feel - but no need to destroy everything, it takes away others respect for you, and it may notbe appearant in the start.. but it withers away at your dignity.

Save face, learn the lessons from this volatile ex.. and ask yourself..

"why was I prepared to cut down everything I had worked for"

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"They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.." - Gunwitch

For me this whole thing sounds like some kind of a joke..
i don't really belive you are real man..

revange? hurt her? faking a gf?
come on.. cant be real....

either you are trying to fool us or you just acting like.. i don't know accualy
what kind of person can act like that.. come on.. are you real???

if you seek for advice.. leave the whole thing alone..
this is childish.. really..

to tell the truth, i dont belive the whole thing is real..
but in case it is, here is my advice:

you should take a serios break from everything..
really.. stop and think of things, think of what took you into this place
and try to assume what you will think of this whole situation a few mounts from now.
you see, now your in pain, your mind is not strait, we all have been there before..
your still young so it must be new to you.
time heels, almost everything.. this one, for sure..
relax, dont look for revage.. it wont get you anywhere..
you will probebly end up looking stupid if you try to revange, or in a worse case
you will just hurt a young girl who dont really knows what she is doing, same as you.

going out clubbing or going out to bars just to find new girls will probebly won't work at this time, your mind is still consumed with this situation and you will just get yourself into a more complicated mind.

just stop.
relax and spend some time at home.
learn somthing new.. play the guitar or somthing..
you can also read some posts in this community about how to deal with things and
how to make yourself a smarter person.

the bottom line is that you have to get over yourself.

hope this helps and i seriosly hope you are real.

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Dawn

Assuming the break up must have been recent.
I am just going to give you my 2 cents so that it can add to your thoughts.

I had an ex too that broke up with me. I was outraged because I wanted to break up with her and I started the fight. But after she said "its over" then I realized that wow I am loosing something here. And I begged to go back ( big mistake). I read some book about getting your ex back and i dont remember it completly but I think if I followed what it said in the beggining I could have got my ex back if I really wanted to and was really dedicated to. I cant remember the name of the book but il tell you some of the basics to get back with ur ex.

First of all you should only want to get back with ur ex if you truly think shes worth it. There are many girls out there and some might even be better. If you think that u can get better girls than ur ex then u shudn't try n get ur ex back because you can get a girl with similar or better quailities. remember shes your ex for a reason. If your thinking serious relationship then tihs breakup will coem back in the future if u guys continue to date.


So once u found out u really want to get her back or not then you have to realize that the breakup was your fault. You have to admit it to yourself and forgive her and everything. Just put the blame on yourself. It might be hard but it will also let u feel a little better since then u know its your fault and u have to fix your self.

A rule is to try and avoid contact with her in any way. this will not only make her realize that she will miss u but will also have time for you to create change in yourself. I girl wont go back with u if u are the same dude. U should leave atleast a month to 3 to change ur self. this can be appearance, use of words, etc. You should also try hanging out with more girls or other firends so ur ex doesnt think ur a looser depressed at home. You ahve to make ur ex think that u are happy and dont care about the breakup this will make her feel jelious kind of.

After 3 montsh and u have changed (which includes becoming a happy person) then you should try n talk to her agian. Just as friends would talk. Talk to her more via messenger. then after a week or so, call her to just hangout somewhere.
then if she says no ...keep talkin to her try not to show that u want her. Just say u want to catchup on things or be like hey im going in your area you want to come fora cup of coffe or somethin. Keep hanging out with her and keep doing this for a month or 3 agian lol. Do it for a while so that the memories of u guys hangin out will stick in her head. Then she will realize u changed, and she will have feelings for u. Remember even tho shes dating somone else, it doesnt matter she will soon realize that u are better than her bf because all relationships have ups and downs. when she has a down with her new bf she will think about u. ( thats what happend to me , she compared me with her new bf... and even told me she wants to break up with him.....!) The mistake I made was I acted depressed when she used to talk about her bf. And I showed my depression when we hanged out by shutting my mouth and she even asked whats wrong i said nothing... but i was looking on the ground. That messed me up.


So once u got all this down, then you should ask her, you wanna try us out agian ? try and ask this when both companys are happy and dont ask in a serious way. if she says no then be like alright its cool i understand. and show ur still happy. act normal. if its a no then i dont think she would want to go back. remember only ask when she breaks up lol dont ask while shes dating. unless shes showing some ioi's (indercators of intersts) and shes talkin shit to bout her bf)

If she says no dont sweat it. If you have changed the nu will not ccare much, it will be her loss and u will jump on the next train.

But dude u shudnt try n get revenge that bad. thats too serious like that could be a criminal offence. Instead if u want revenge, jus shwo that ur happy, hangout with alot of girls. What I am trying to do for revenge is just invite her to a party, and invite all the girls that likes me, and then that will show i am a king and that she should have not dumped me. It will make her feel so bad inside even if she doesnt say anything. It makes any ex feel bad no matter what. Jus do that, and you need to show that ur are higher than her.

thats what im trying to do, my ex used to be the smart ass one who used big words. Now I took philosophy and I understand logic really well, i prove her wrong last time on msn. But that wasnt good cause the convo ended in a fire red i think like not a hapy convo.

that was a mistake i made.

Just be her friend and show her that ur happy. that will make her emotions feel upside down.

Jus need to chill for a while u will get over her. I thought i would never. it tok me like a year lmao. And i my ex got fat so or now i noticed that shes fat ( since iv talked to hotter girls ex.)

Im sorry this is long i thought it would be short but then i remembed my situation.

anyways man hope u read this just think bout it.

- hb.

this is my second post in this forum lol.

im new
edit: and sorry for my grammer i have homework and had to type fast
good luck bro.

"Live life well, It's the greatest revenge" -The Talmud