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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:50 pm 
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Im tired of this freakin discussion...

I might risk repeating myself and if I do I humble raise my middle finger... ;)

The game has a bad reputation, even among the PUAs. Among the girls it is something to avoid (that would never work on me). It is a trap, something to trick her into whatever. Among PUAs there are still people who agree. People who think that we use manipulative tricks and routines to lead her into our beds without her understanding what happened.

Im here to kill that once and for all.

First off, what is PUA? Is it a way to get girls? Yes
Is it a way to manipulate? No
Is it a way to be more social? Yes.
Ok we are missing the main point.
It is a path to self improvement.

Every single thing we do is done to raise confidence. You feel awkward talking to girls, voila, a routine. You suddenly have a script to stick to, you feel more confident.
You feel like it is wrong to do whatever you desire to do. Create an avatar that you can blame everything on. More confidence.
You feel that you look strange. You learn bodylanguage. More confidence.

The fact is that most people feel more confident if they have a checklist. If you can check all the boxes, if you can say, yes I did peacock, I have shaved, I project my voice, you will feel that you are prepared and you will feel more confident.

But in the end this is not what the game is all about.
A lot of people talk about inner game. I recently tried to explain the concept of inner game to a friend of mine. Her first reaction was "Oh, so that means routines you use to trick yourself?"
At first I told her that no, that is completely wrong but after careful consideration I have to admit that that is what most PUAs do. She was completely correct, that is what most PUAs believe that inner game is. That is why they never progress, that is why they quit before they get any good, bacause without real inner game training you are never gonna go beyond a certain level.

So what is my take on inner game. It is not tricking yourself into thinking that you are awsome like Ross Jefferies tries to tell us. It is not enough to act like we are confident, it is not even enough to have the mindset that we are awsome. If you are going around feeling that you are the greatest guy ever, if your confidence is shining like a supernova, if your posture says ALPHA MALE!!!!! It is still not real inner game. It is not enough.

Inner game is about self improvement. It is not painting over the holes in the wall, it is fixing them.
As you progress in the game one thing that you will notice is that your confidence level has increased (some see this as a side effect). I see it as the point.
We build strength and courage to deal with our inner weaknesses. We are all flawed, nobody is perfect. We all have issues.
In the game, we have been given numerous tools that we can use to deal with our own shortcomings. There are affirmations, NLP stuff, social training, adio material, videos, in field training etc etc. But that is not the most important tool. The most important tool is the balls we have grown. We have balls of solid rock (Robin Hood prince of thieves) and we dare to take on our own inner AMOGs. I use the word AMOG here because that is what it is. Some parts of our brain has us under its boot. There are things that we have learned, rules, situations we remember, issues. They are there for a reason, sometimes a good reason. (Not many of us will touch a hot plate again.) Sometimes the reason is bad, we got scared once and conect that bad situation with something that holds us back. Maybe our mothers told us off if we used bad language, guess what, we no longer have to care.
All of our mental AMOGs need to be defeated and understood. If we can build up enough courage to actually take them on and see our own patheticness (oh yes it hurts) we will grow. We will no longer be subjects to ridiculus preprogrammed behaviours that only hold us back.

Not many of us have reached that level. Most of us just build on top of that and bypass the problem. Hmmm Im afraid of this situation so Ill go around it. Guess what, it shows. Yes you are better than a loser but you are not yet as powerful as you could be.

The problem with people who does not kill their inner AMOGs is that they have to fight for their position. They rely on keeping up appearances and covering up their issues. These people are not free. You might even feel that it takes little or no effort to be the alpha male but deep down inside you know that you still have to do it. You actively have to be the alpha male. The concept of being an alpha male is always present in your mind. You are dodging the attacs of the inner AMOGs, hoping that they will not appear at the wrong time. You can not rest until they are truly defeated.

So you see, in the end, we have to become the person we want to be. We need to maximize our potential. We have a responsability to free our minds, to be the best person we can imagine. And when we are, we have to push it even further, the limits we thought we knew just went up even higher.

This all means that instead of faking a great life and using routines to show the things that we know attract girls, we can just aquire these things. If they are there they will show. We do not need routines to show things that are obvious. No need to use a preselection routine if you have a bunch of girls competing for your attention. No need to build social proof if you know a lot of guys in the club.

So, we are not supposed to be using routines, we are not supposed to fake it, we are supposed to make it. Routines and negs and all of that are just tools we use in order to progress to the level where we dont need them.

We are trying to become the best we can be, can anyone think that that is manipulative or wrong? We are not tricking anyone into thinking anything, not when we have gotten far enough.

Girls who say that the game will not work on them does not mean the real PUAs, they mean the crap that new PUAs throw at them. Routines, tricks, showmanship. A conartist. We are not conartists...

If a girl does not fall for real game, it means that she can not identify a truly awsome guy. That is what it means. She does not like good people, she does not feel attracted to an attractive male. Of course that is not what she means but that is the truth. If you wanna stay in the routine filled fog, if you wanna be one of those guys who still fakes it until they make it then feel free to do so.
On the other hand, if you wanna distinguish yourself and go beyond what you thought was possible then come along, its a bumpy ride but it is worth it.

We make it.

Ezo


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Ezo.. amazing post, there are a few people here that not only have great thoughts, but more important a GREAT way of putting them into words..

and a few more things on the subject of routines I had on my mind

Routines- I see routines in a way like, makeup.. what is makeup, girls use makeup, fake eyelashes, push up bras, boob jobs, high heels.. to increase their natural attraction.. so does the young PUA uses lines and routines. Woman cannot blame us for trying to be more attractive, they have been doing it all their lives

and furthermore, if I am physically cannot defend myself, I will take martial art lessons, to increase my natural self preservation
if I cannot succeed financially, in the first couple of months I will do fineness exercises to improve my way of handling money
and I will use certain things to improve my natural attraction, if that is a problem for me

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Great post, just realized a lot of this on my own lately as well. Good to have someone put it on paper.


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great post, here's one I like by Soporno. The post resurfaced recently actually

http://www.worthyplayboys.com/philosoph ... iting.html

I read this a while back but only recently I realised I come to understand truly what he means.

No longer do I seduce girls for their approval to make myself feel better. If a girl throws herself at me and she is only 'all right' i don't bother scoring the open goal.

I don't tell my friends my sexploits apart from my two best mates, we share everything. I don't need my friends to look up to me as some kind of casanova. It's cool!


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Great post man, well said!!!!! :D


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Great Post Ezo!

You make an excellent point sir! All the cosmetic stuff you mentioned that we have here on the forum is to get you through the "fake it until you make it" transition phase. Eventually, you are suppose to "make it!"

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"You are the message." The message you are is what you communicate. It's not just the words. You send signals about what kind of person you are--with our eyes, your facial expression, your body movement, your vocal pitch, tone, volume, and intensity, your commitment to your message, your sense of humor, and many other factors. Real or manufactured.

Words alone are meaningless unless the rest of you is in congruent synchronization. The total you affects how others think of and respond to you. If you lack congruence then many women will see that your inner and outer person are unsychronized


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Real or manufactured.
No!! Thats the point! You are not supposed to manifacture anything. You are supposed to grow into your role. If you are awsome you can forget about all you have learned in respect of bodylanguage etc. It will be there naturally...


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Great post Ezo, I really enjoyed the read.

I am only new to PUA, but I guess i'm lucky in the fact that I see more value in become that awesome person that you talk about than spending time learning the routines.

I have only been studying PUA for about two months and it is already paying dividends in my life, but in other areas than what people get into PUA for.

It has taught me about personal development, being a more confident person, having a better outlook, and shooting for your goals.

It has helped me increae my social life significantly and made me a happier person.

It seems like a lot of people have the view that PUA will eventually make your life worse, make you loose respect for women, and turn you into some sex freak with no morals. None of this has happened to me yet, i'm still feeling very posative about PUA. It has helped meet meet a lot of interesting people, and so far my life is better off.

As for the bad reputation the game has, I do find myslef embarassed to tell people i study how to pick up girls, even though it has tought me some great lessons. I am worried that if girls find out, they would think less of me, even though it's actually making me a better person.

Just wanted to share my thoughts, think you made some great points.

Cheers,

wowo


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I totaly agree

I joined the community about 3 months ago. The problem is that it is quite easy to get a bad image of pua's . defenetly in the beginning you're all focussed on getting girls and not about improving yourself.

It should be desribed more in the books, advertisements and whatever.

One of my best friends knows about pua to and i see him turning into a dick-head robot. only thinking about getting girls and doing whatever to get them despite of being an ass.

A few weeks ago i seriously started to doubt about pua. I got quite high morals in life and i try to live by them. But who can say no when he's told to do something that should get him laid?

I want to thank you for restoring my faith in PUA

Hambal


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Thank you! All the ammo I need for my new possible wings. :)

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