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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:14 am 
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Hey guys,
I want to know, who here fought his way out of the friend zone? By that I mean you telling her how you feel, she telling you you guys are just friends, and then you eventually and somehow getting with her.

I've been hit with that one-itis shit lately. Bfore that, everytime I read about people asking for one-itis help here, I feel like they're so stupid, and that they should just give up and go for some other chicks. But I never thought it would be this hard... so tell me the whole story guys, who did it, how you did it, and how long it took.

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You're not stupid for having one-itis. Most people go through it at least once. One-itis is just your natural reaction to really liking a girl, which isn't a bad thing. It's just unfortunate that feeling like this will prevent you from acting how you need to in order to get her.

The first thing you need to do is stop thinking of everything you can do to help you get this girl, that is not the be all and end all. The big thing here is for you to stop feeling like you rely on having success with her, that is 1 million times more important than actually getting her will ever be.

Are there ways out of the friend zone? Yeah, I'm sure there are. But you have to remember that you've been put in the friend zone because she has effectively catagorised you, whether rightly or wrongly. She has decided what sort of guy you are and what you offer and decided that is most beneficial as a friend to her.

So in order to get out of that, firstly I believe there needs to be a period of no contact, where you have even a slight chance of things feeling new when you next speak to her. A substantial period of not speaking will give her the feeling of having to learn about you again when you do speak, and that's when you need to demonstrate the features you should have demonstrated all along.

This is not a quick fix though, it's not something you're going to be able to do today, tomorrow or next week. Effectively achieving the chance to attempt this will go hand in hand with getting over the one-itis itself. By the time the opportunity comes around, you could have put efforts into fixing your inner game so that when it does come, you don't feel you need it.

Talk to other women bro. I don't even care if you don't get a number. Get out there and make a few chicks smile with your charm. Show us all why this one chicks gonna kick herself for putting you in the friend zone.


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So I've known this chick for about 6 or 7 years now. She had a lot of growing up to do and I was never that into her the first few years we knew each other. I've always found her attractive but we had a big brother/little sister kind of relationship. I think the main thing in us finally hooking up was me not being in contact with her for almost 2 years. Within 1 week of me being back in contact with her(with facebook no less), we went out on 2 dates and the deal was sealed. She said that she felt differently towards me now because I was more interesting and that my "big brother" mentality had worn off. She found me sexy and confidant now because I never gave her one word responses(I never said just a yes or a no to a question she asked me). Even though my appearance hasn't changed one bit she said I looked better and more confident. I teased her non stop until she asked me why I was teasing her so much and then I teased her about that. I was more interesting because of the things I've learned from the "game".

We looked at each other differently after our absence from one another. I know you don't want to take that much time to get with this chick but you need to have her look at you in a different way(you obviously know this already). This is where a wing man would do some good work. If he/she is planting different ideas and thoughts in her head then she might come around. You obviously need to do something different than what you are currently doing. Ramp up the flirting and tease her more. Don't be creepy when you do this.

You could always just ask her out on a date. Just make sure you tell her what your intentions are and be upfront with her.

I don't think there is a magic trick for this one like there are for so many other situations. If you do ask her out and you make it known that you like her in that way then you might just lose her as a friend. Good luck with this one my friend, hopefully you won't need it.


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1 of the problems with this girl is, being flirty/teasing her doesn't work. From me and other people's experience, it just doesn't work on her. When we talk, she tells me that she feels like everyone keeps making fun of her and "hates on her". She doesn't realize it but its because she's really good looking and everyone is being flirty with her. So I feel like I need to go AFC on her... eitherway its kind of late now I'm in the f zone. But it's so confusing because I feel like going AFC is the way to go in terms of how I should treat her.


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took me long .... too long ... and you know what ? she wasn't worth all the effort.

one itis depends on your situation.... are you married ... how long you've been together .... how much time you spend. also if your really confident and you have a good inner game you will suffer less from one itis.

the more you invest the worse one itis will get .... you can stop .... or you can continue.

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FIELD REPORT: the Lea…ding experience…

28th November, 2009

It was a Saturday, a peak night in Wellington. Me and Ninja finished work that night and we cruise into town. Cold approaches were not going well so we decided to call it a night, but then we bumped into our mates and Ninja found his target. I decided to come along to wing.

Briefly, I met this German girl before on a previous occasion and at the time it was just a platonic social thing. That event certified the social proof of me and Ninja to that social circle.

Ninja sarged his chosen target while I rolled with the obstacle which also involves a German hb9. Ninja took another German hb9. We locked in at Vespa. This was a perfect comfort location. The set was 3 male obstacles and two HBs.

Ninja sat with his target going through Kino escalation. I isolated my target to the bar. I asked her about what the cold reading she did to me the other week; she analyzed my personality through the choice of my favorite animal. She took her time teaching me this game on personality analysis. After which I practiced on her, it was a good laugh.

I gave her a few statement of interest go shift into A3. (Male to Female interest)

TORNADO: hey I’m actually impressed. You nailed my personality spot on.

TARGET: Oh the key is to draw some certain information about why they choose the animal which will later on give you clues on their personality.

TORNADO: You can be quite a cool girl sometimes. Where do you learn all these stuff?

TARGET: From parties, from guys who tried hitting on me (LOL).

TORNADO: You’re reminding me of an ex-girlfriend. I can’t even talk to you now (LOL! Body rock). I need to see if I can trust you, come here…

Eskimo Nose Kino Routine. Conversation continued and process of “Bait, Hook, Reel, and Release” repeated a couple of times. As I was looking for a window to open.

TORNADO: Hey you got to rationalize this for me. Why am I so drawn to you?
‘Cause genetically, I’m supposed to be attracted to Asians (LOL).

TARGET: I don’t know.

TORNADO: Hey you’re a good looking girl I’ll give you that. But beauty is common; my sister works in the fashion industry. All my life I’ve been surrounded by beautiful girls. What’s rare is good personality, that’s for sure. Good energy, you know like some people you can really enjoy their company. And a good outlook, you have 2 out of 3, that’s a very good start.

TARGET: (Laugh) What don’t I have?

TORNADO: It’s not what you don’t have, it’s just that personality can only be seen overtime. But you’re a really fun girl though, I can tell. I’m trying so hard not to kiss you right now.

TARGET: Sorry, I’m actually seeing someone right now.

At this point I thought I have failed miserably. Everything was good till then, but I remained unaffected. I conquered my reactions and just respond as if I already knew she’s seeing someone.

TORNADO: Ah yeah? That’s really good for you. What is he like?

TARGET: She describes every positive thing about him.


TORNADO: hey that sounds nice, you should definitely go for him ‘cause there’re not a lot of nice guys around you know.

Can you keep a secret? OMG I can’t believe I’m telling you this, but at the moment I actually have two girlfriends. One here and another one I’m keeping in touch in with she’s from Thailand, I’m going to see her soon over the summer. It’s such a shit situation to be in…trust me I’m toxic.

I showed her the photos of both them and we started sharing secrets. She told me about her never getting an orgasm with a guy and all these other stuff that I’ve forgotten. I told her that I fake it sometimes due to my post mature ejaculation.

TORNADO: You know what; if you tell anyone about this I’ll kill you. It’s only between you and me alright? (Pinky-swear to the target)

TARGET: If you tell anyone, I’ll seriously kill you too.

TORNADO: before we kill each other, we should change the topic.

Obstacles came by hinting her to go home, but she chose to stay. After everyone left, we talked about Thai massage and…

TORNADO: OMG! This is so fucking random. Half an hour ago I was attracted to you, and now you’re like my new best friend. I don’t know why I trust you so much.

TARGET: You actually know more about me than my closest friends. How did we get to this point??

TORNADO: hey you were talking about Thai massage before, when was the last time you had one?

TARGET: Ages ago, why???

TORNADO: ‘Cause I’m really tired right now, and I reckon we should really head home. You can come by my place for a bit, and I’ll give you a massage. Don’t get any ideas missy, I’m calling you a cab afterwards.
We came to my place and showed her my folder of fame. This contains the funny photos from the newspaper that I was in for rock concerts during my high school days. I gave her the massage, and then I got her to give me one. Kiss her hand on the peak point of the interaction, kiss-closed, made out and F-CLOSED!!!!

From meeting to F-closing took about 4- 5 hours. While I was giving her the massage, I was kino-seducing eg. Kissing on the cheek, whispers to her ear, blowing lightly on the side of her neck. The way I made her take leggings was…

TORNADO: Ok, I might as well massage your legs. No way I can do it with these (her leggings) on. I’ll be back in a sec.

While she was on top of me massaging my chest with the massaging oil, I said to her;

TORNADO: I usually don’t let girls do this to me, how did you tricked me into this ?

TARGET: Laugh.

Putting her in your friend zone vault is not necessarily bad, as long as you dismiss as a norm between you and her, it actually works well as a trust and rapport building tool. If you project enough interest and kino well enough, the friend-zone vault can get you laid.

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Thats a nice field report. I particulary like the part where you start asking about her emotions with the guy she is seeing as it is kinda like NLP accessing her feelings about someone and trying to associate with you.

Great stuff.


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I hastily logged-in and posted the other thread without having read this thread at all, and this is some of the best advice I could've heard.


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It's a much longer term thing for me... i known her for around 2 yrs but i didn't spend much time wit her till recently


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FIELD REPORT: the Lea…ding experience…

28th November, 2009

It was a Saturday, a peak night in Wellington. Me and Ninja finished work that night and we cruise into town. Cold approaches were not going well so we decided to call it a night, but then we bumped into our mates and Ninja found his target. I decided to come along to wing.

Briefly, I met this German girl before on a previous occasion and at the time it was just a platonic social thing. That event certified the social proof of me and Ninja to that social circle.

Ninja sarged his chosen target while I rolled with the obstacle which also involves a German hb9. Ninja took another German hb9. We locked in at Vespa. This was a perfect comfort location. The set was 3 male obstacles and two HBs.

Ninja sat with his target going through Kino escalation. I isolated my target to the bar. I asked her about what the cold reading she did to me the other week; she analyzed my personality through the choice of my favorite animal. She took her time teaching me this game on personality analysis. After which I practiced on her, it was a good laugh.

I gave her a few statement of interest go shift into A3. (Male to Female interest)

TORNADO: hey I’m actually impressed. You nailed my personality spot on.

TARGET: Oh the key is to draw some certain information about why they choose the animal which will later on give you clues on their personality.

TORNADO: You can be quite a cool girl sometimes. Where do you learn all these stuff?

TARGET: From parties, from guys who tried hitting on me (LOL).

TORNADO: You’re reminding me of an ex-girlfriend. I can’t even talk to you now (LOL! Body rock). I need to see if I can trust you, come here…

Eskimo Nose Kino Routine. Conversation continued and process of “Bait, Hook, Reel, and Release” repeated a couple of times. As I was looking for a window to open.

TORNADO: Hey you got to rationalize this for me. Why am I so drawn to you?
‘Cause genetically, I’m supposed to be attracted to Asians (LOL).

TARGET: I don’t know.

TORNADO: Hey you’re a good looking girl I’ll give you that. But beauty is common; my sister works in the fashion industry. All my life I’ve been surrounded by beautiful girls. What’s rare is good personality, that’s for sure. Good energy, you know like some people you can really enjoy their company. And a good outlook, you have 2 out of 3, that’s a very good start.

TARGET: (Laugh) What don’t I have?

TORNADO: It’s not what you don’t have, it’s just that personality can only be seen overtime. But you’re a really fun girl though, I can tell. I’m trying so hard not to kiss you right now.

TARGET: Sorry, I’m actually seeing someone right now.

At this point I thought I have failed miserably. Everything was good till then, but I remained unaffected. I conquered my reactions and just respond as if I already knew she’s seeing someone.

TORNADO: Ah yeah? That’s really good for you. What is he like?

TARGET: She describes every positive thing about him.


TORNADO: hey that sounds nice, you should definitely go for him ‘cause there’re not a lot of nice guys around you know.

Can you keep a secret? OMG I can’t believe I’m telling you this, but at the moment I actually have two girlfriends. One here and another one I’m keeping in touch in with she’s from Thailand, I’m going to see her soon over the summer. It’s such a shit situation to be in…trust me I’m toxic.

I showed her the photos of both them and we started sharing secrets. She told me about her never getting an orgasm with a guy and all these other stuff that I’ve forgotten. I told her that I fake it sometimes due to my post mature ejaculation.

TORNADO: You know what; if you tell anyone about this I’ll kill you. It’s only between you and me alright? (Pinky-swear to the target)

TARGET: If you tell anyone, I’ll seriously kill you too.

TORNADO: before we kill each other, we should change the topic.

Obstacles came by hinting her to go home, but she chose to stay. After everyone left, we talked about Thai massage and…

TORNADO: OMG! This is so fucking random. Half an hour ago I was attracted to you, and now you’re like my new best friend. I don’t know why I trust you so much.

TARGET: You actually know more about me than my closest friends. How did we get to this point??

TORNADO: hey you were talking about Thai massage before, when was the last time you had one?

TARGET: Ages ago, why???

TORNADO: ‘Cause I’m really tired right now, and I reckon we should really head home. You can come by my place for a bit, and I’ll give you a massage. Don’t get any ideas missy, I’m calling you a cab afterwards.
We came to my place and showed her my folder of fame. This contains the funny photos from the newspaper that I was in for rock concerts during my high school days. I gave her the massage, and then I got her to give me one. Kiss her hand on the peak point of the interaction, kiss-closed, made out and F-CLOSED!!!!

From meeting to F-closing took about 4- 5 hours. While I was giving her the massage, I was kino-seducing eg. Kissing on the cheek, whispers to her ear, blowing lightly on the side of her neck. The way I made her take leggings was…

TORNADO: Ok, I might as well massage your legs. No way I can do it with these (her leggings) on. I’ll be back in a sec.

While she was on top of me massaging my chest with the massaging oil, I said to her;

TORNADO: I usually don’t let girls do this to me, how did you tricked me into this ?

TARGET: Laugh.

Putting her in your friend zone vault is not necessarily bad, as long as you dismiss as a norm between you and her, it actually works well as a trust and rapport building tool. If you project enough interest and kino well enough, the friend-zone vault can get you laid.
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In my opinion, ending up in the friend zone is the easiest way to get laid.
It's a great way to invite her to your bedroom for a movie without any resistance from her.
And from there all you have to do is be very seductive! Sitting with a girl on your bed drinking some wine together... well if you can turn that sexual, the friend zone isn't your problem!
I actually sometimes #close girls by saying that they seem like good future friends, lets hang out, this completely eliminates the bitch shield.
Friend zone is your friend! :wink:

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Its possible to get out of friend zone but it all depends on the situation. Sometimes its not worth it.

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