I'm wondering, with all the talk of being alpha, what role there is for humility in pick-up. Have some of the more experienced PUAs found that pick-up and being humble can coexist, or are they mutually exclusive somehow?

I guess its a harder approach as you can very easily go back to being the AFC through being too nice. That tends to be what girls look to avoid and so being alpha is much more effective.

Thanks for your thoughts, Bormad. Much appreciated. In my view, though, being humble is not the same as being too nice. Niceness is a social construct, an artifice; humility is a pure, essential mindset that strips away the ego in favor of recognizing connections that already exist but often go unacknowledged. I agree with Stormy, who has written so eloquently on the idea of shedding the ego, that if you have have a rock-solid inner game -- and to even call it a "game" is to mischaracterize it -- you will be completely coherent (or "congruent," as Stormy and others have put it) in your approach to women, and you will subcommunicate this oneness of mind, body, and spirit in a very powerful way. So I'm inclined to believe that pick-up and humility are not at all incompatible.

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Now I just have to strip away more of my ego

Anyone else want to weigh in on this theme?

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a lot of people interpret being alpha as becomming a die hard cock sucker, who has the right to push around, the real bad ass, that has the urge on showing how alpha he is.

This is saucage, crap, belony. "Alpha" guys that show off too much, that make fun of other to show their alphaness or how cool they are, are hiding their insecureties.

Being alpha is being a real man. You know what you are worth, you know what you can and cannot do. You are honest to yourself and towards others. That means that you wont hide your feelings, your thoughts because you are afraid of what others might think. honest humility is all you need. It has nothing to do with being a nice guy. it is what it is.

cheers

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I may be wrong but I find humility to work better once in a stable relationship. In dating acting humble is dlv but when you are with someone and committed there are times where you have to be humble...imo.