FR#20: House Party K-Close, Couldn't beat LMR...need tips



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FR#20
Nov. 28th. 2009
House Party

Alright so for the past week Ive just been visiting this small town where I have some family. Throughout the week, Ive been socializing with one of my good friends (who lives in the town) Ryan's social group in this town. So last night me and my Ryan's plan was to head to this house party for the night. It was supposed to be somewhat small, all the guys I had met throughout the week, and a bunch of girls. Nothing special, but a decent shaker. Im sorry if some of the details of the party are all over the place. I was there from 11-4am. It was a long night haha.

On our way to the party we stop at one Ryan's friends place for a little pre-drink. At the pre-drink theres about 5 guys, and 5 girls. I walk in there with a smile on my face, and make some side comments. Just try and be social, but not overly excited. Ryan immeaditely is engaged in a 2 set of HB7s (Holly and Tera). Apparently these 2 girls had invited him to some other party, but he got them to come out with us instead. So I join the set, and decide that my goal is to just DHV myself, and wing Ryan with his target, At this point I had no intentions of picking a target, but I didnt see the harm in DHVing myself for later on. So Im just running natural game like I usually do. Pretty much just David Deangelo C+F stuff. Negging, and light teasing. All of the sudden Tera pulls out a deck of cards and trys to show us a magic trick but she epic fails. Its funny though, because I had been practicing magic tricks for the last month and I figured this would be my time to shine! However, I fucked up the trick somehow lol. But it was all good. The girls appreciated the effort.

So a few minutes later everyone bounces to the other party. And as soon I walked in the door I did what is becoming routine for me now, smile and act very social. I immeaditely find myself in a game of flip cup, and am just DHVing to all HB on-lookers by having a good time. After a few games of flip cup, I notice Ryan sitting on a couch with both Holly and Tera. So I decide to crash the set. I went in there with high energy, and just continued with the negging/ teasing. After a few minutes Im already getting tons of IOIs from Tera, when she adds to it by asking me "How old are you?". Now this is my favourite question a girl can ask me because if you respond the way I always respond to this, it sets the tone for the rest of the night.

Tera: How old are you?
Me: How old do you think I am? (ALWAYS MAKE HER GUESS)
Tera: haha 20?
Me: Wow you think Im that old? Im 15. Im in the 10th grade. My ID just works really good
Tera: LOL your not 15...


And from there I used C+F material throughout the night about how young I am, and how shes to old for me etc. Its so simple but so affective. As well, I was escalating the kino gradually. Never lingering for too long, but building up comfort.

Anyways, after chilling on the couch with these girls for a little bit we started moving about the house. At this point it was clear Tera was my target for the night, and I could tell she was definately interested in me. I found myself isolated with Holly and she asks me "So wat do you think of my friend Tera? Do you think shes hot?" and I respond "Ya shes not bad, shes a looker haha" The good thing was I had clearly won over the obstacle, Holly with my C+F stuff, so now my goal was to isolate Tera and close. Isolation has been a big sticking point for me lately so I really wanted to get over the hump on this night. When I had to go to the bathroom ther, I grabbed Tera and decided to use my original "Campfire Routine" I invented that I have described in past FRs. So while Im waiting to use the bathroom I sit on the ground, and get her to sit with me and we just have an imaginary campfire. Roasting fake marshmellows and stupid stuff like that etc. Its very good for building an "Our world" type SPAM and she loved every minute of it and thought it was awesome.

After I used the bathroom it ends up all 4 of us are back on the couch. Im snuggled up with Tera, and Ryan is cuddling with Holly. Now Im 100% sure at this point that I can K-close Tera. Ryan had already told me, that Holly told him, that Tera wanted to hook up with me haha. But I knew I wouldnt be able to close on this couch because it was right in the middle of the whole party and there were alot of people around us, and watching. So I decide that Im gonna try a Palm Reading routine for the first time. I grab her hand and say...

Me: I can read palms you know (grab her hand, and analyze it)
Tera: Really what can you tell?
Me: Well this line here is your life line, its big so you'll have a long and healthy life.
This other line here is your wealth line. Its not that big, but its not small either. So you wont be super rich, but you'll have enough money to get by. Oh and this line here...Its your retard line haha
Tera: lol what?
Me: Ya its pretty big haha
Tera: LOL


So that went over well. After a few more minutes of fluff, I just say fuck it, I need to close this broad. So I just man up and grab her by the hand and say come with me. And I led her upstairs and say "Look I just had to bring you up here because I just have to kiss you". And boom K-close.

Now this is where things get really escalate. So I pull her into the nearest bedroom and throw her onto the bed. And we just start going at it. So were making out and Im feeling her up and stuff. After a few minutes, I unbutton her vest. Then a couple minutes later I take off my shirt. Im nibbling on her neck, as Im rubbing the outside of her pants in her crotch area. And shes moaning abit. Then I try to unbutton her pants. When I meet the first signs of LMR. She grabs my hand and pushes it away. So I just continue the makeout, then I try and slide my hand down her pants this time and this time she says,

Tera: Your so forward haha
Me: Im forward? Your the forward one haha.


At this point two ideas crossed my mind to combat the LMR. 1) Freeze Out, kill the mood, turn on the lights. 2) Role reversal lines.

Now Ill be 100% honest. This was only the 2nd time ive ever been in this situation. Sadly Im still a virgin, so Im a true rookie when it comes to dealing with this stuff. So I elected to use Role reversal lines. Which actually worked out good. But it didnt beat the LMR. As we continued making out etc I used lines like "I cant believe Im doing this, I barely know you." "This is so weird, Im usually never this impulsive". And she ate up every line. So I was hoping this stuff would work, however thats when the cockblocks came into play. People started opening the door, and checking us out. Thats when I pulled her into the closet haha, and kept plowing forward with the makeout. Thats when she asked me if I was gonna text her after the night haha. Obviously I said I would, and I grabbed her #, and we continued the makeout sesh.

Eventually Ryan and Holly joined us in the bedroom and it woulda been epic if we both closed our girls at the same time, but they were definately not the type of girls who would do that. So each of us just cuddled as couples, and I continued making out with Tera. Then at 4 am my ride was leaving so I had to finally go home.

All in all I had a great night, and really felt I ran some really solid game. As I think back in my pickup career, I dont think this is the best game Ive ever run, but I think it was the most a girl has ever been attracted to me. So Im pretty proud of that. I am just curious though about how you guys think I couldve handled the LMR better? Like I said I am very inexperienced in that area. So any advice I can get would be greatly appreciated, since Im gonna try and hangout with this girl again before I leave town.


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hey man, first off, Congrats! n don worry haha im on da same line here...make out buh still havent swiped the V card...

Im thinking it would make her more comfortable if u took her hand and instead of moving to the closet just take her out of the room n jus roam around for a bit and she wont be as hesitant to come back to the room or even take her to the washroom next time and make out with her....

if ur strong enough jus pick her up put her on da table n start kissin her from her forehead down to her breasts..

perhaps reaching for her breasts first rather than her crotch would be a better approach...


Another way this could work, i've seen it work multiple times...instead of you grabbing her crotch, you take her hand and put it on ur crotch lol. Let her play around with you and then you play with her. It should work man, keep at it!


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LOL ya I was thinking about just grabbing her hand and putting it right on my crotch but i chickened out.

Since im leaving town either tomorrow, or the day after (most likely tomorrow though). I was trying to get her over to my hotel tonight. But the problem is, theres a huge snow storm where Im at right now, and she doesnt want to drive in this weather to my hotel (which is about 30 mins away). I only asked her once in the hour of texting we had, but tried to infer another time that I wanted her over. But I understand why she wouldnt drive over here. Im hoping tomorrow if Im still here that ill be able to pull it off, so we'll see what happens.


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Good job man, and dont worry about not losing the V-card, its not like some stamp gets removed from your forehead or anything. No one can tell, unless you tell them. Just remember, its not something you NEED, its something you WANT. When people want something, thats when they become needy, and start validating themselves by it. Think about everyone you ever knew who HAD to be the center of attention. They come off as needy, and frankly, annoying. If you realize that "I dont NEED this, its just something I want, and I dont need it from you" I think it will affect your mentality just the same as losing it, because you wont be validating yourself through it. If you're a fan of David D (I am too), then he explains exactly what to do in your LMR situation. Two steps forward, one step back. Do this right, and eventually she will be yours, Ive had girls dampen through their jeans using this method.

I really like the campfire idea man, how do you set that up? I have to admit, every way I have come up with sounds dumb, or weird in my head.


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Ya thanks for the advice man. Next time ill have to try the 2 steps forward, 1 step back. The mistake I think I made was that I escalated to quickly once we were making out heavily. I got too ahead myself, and thought with my dick instead of my brain. By the time I started using the role reversal lines, it was too late.

Regarding the campfire routine. Its very simple...I've used it 3 times now at parties, and has not failed me yet. Its absolute gold.

Anyways, the best time to pull it out is when you have to go to the bathroom, but theres somebody already in there so you have to wait outside. So what I usually do is say to the girl, "I have to go to the bathroom". Then say to her, "come chill with me while im waiting, we'll have a campfire". And usually there like "haha ok?". Then you grab her hand and just sit down, and snuggle up with her outside the bathroom, and just role play. Say things like, "k I brought the marshmellows. did you bring the chocolate/ graham crackers?". Then pretend to roast the marshmellows over the imaginary fire. And she'll do the same, and a good neg I use is "what are you doing, your burning it!?!...(and then say sarcastically)...I remember my first campfire". Iunno just stupid shit like that. The key is to pull it off with a fun attitude. Just be really playful and goof off. It does sound dumb, but like Style says in The Game, "everything that was funny when you were 8, is still funny now to girls"


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Nicely done man, quite game you got there.
Lots of people wish they had ur knowledge at the age of 15.
And as for the V-Card, you are still young, im sure you'd get very soon (if not with this girl) if you keep up like that.

btw I wish i was still at the age that we had house parties, it is so easy to close.

Have fun.


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Nicely done man, quite game you got there.
Lots of people wish they had ur knowledge at the age of 15.
And as for the V-Card, you are still young, im sure you'd get very soon (if not with this girl) if you keep up like that.

btw I wish i was still at the age that we had house parties, it is so easy to close.

Have fun.
LOL...thanks for the good words, but Im not 15...I am truly 20

The whole "Im 15" line, is just a joke that the girls eat up because Im clearly not that young. And its too bad I didnt get to see her again before I left town (A fucken snowstorm preventend that). But although it doesnt make a difference I think I would've closed had I met up with her again.


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Great job man. Worked the night quite well.

In regards to LMR. I think its really about building up enough tension that SHE is the one who wants it or maybe just enough to go through with it.

I don't think its that some girls just wont do that. I think its that some girls buttons take longer to push. While making out, you should try to build up sexual tension by touching and letting her touch you. BUT, two steps forward one step back. Tease her, make her think you are going to make a move and then eject. And keep doing it until she is all rattled up.

That is too bad about the snow storm though. The forces of nature fucked you over on this one. Well, at least to her, you are not the hot stranger that is in town only ever so often. Next time, take that fact and make it your advantage.

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i actually meant to say that you ARE that stranger that comes around once in a while, take advantage of that.

Oh and try no too long distance text. Text her once in a while maybe. Just to keep you in her mind.

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Sounds like an awesome night well done, whenever I hear house party stories, I always get an accurate imagination of it all happening cause I know exactly what they are like lol. They are easily the best place to close cause everyone is usually happy, drunk and there is usually no scummy characters invited that you would find at a venue. Also the music is not as loud and distracting and there is beds everywhere... man I fucking love house partys! :D

Small piece of advice, keep going to party's like these and you will lose your virginity in no time! I actually lost mine in a street outside one so that is always an option aswell haha.


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i actually meant to say that you ARE that stranger that comes around once in a while, take advantage of that.

Oh and try no too long distance text. Text her once in a while maybe. Just to keep you in her mind.
Ok well heres a little update. I was texting with her the day I left which was Wednesday but didnt text her on purpose, "to give her the gift of missing me". I didnt hear anything from her till yesterday when she texted me, and we ended up texting back and forth for most of the day. I was definately in control though because my responses varied in time between responses. Sometimes I waited up to 45 mins. Even when I didnt respond to her texts a couple times she would send another text 15 mins later like a :) or something like that.

Im trying to figure out where I go from here though. Im only living 1:30 away from her right now, although the roads are so bad that I doubt she'd come visit, and I dont plan on being in her town for another 2 weeks, although I havent told her this yet. So where do I go from here? Do I text her every few days? Let her text me? And how do I sexualize the texts? Cuz most of them have just been playful banter/ C+F/ regular convo/ comfort building etc, but nothing really sexual.


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OK well, don't tell her you are going back. Surprise her when you are there. And with texting and sexualizing you want to be subtle at first. Remind her what great times you had while you were there.

Then, when you are back. Call her and be like, hey ill be in town for a few days. then try to set up a day 2.

If you are looking for an Fclose. Play your cards right at the day 2 and move to somewhere private when things escalate.

Keep yourself interesting and mysterious.

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