Yes it is exactly that, a social crutch IF you require it in order to approach women. It is if you need it, agreed. But I don't. Whilst it makes me more comfortable as a side effect of drinking with friends (this is normal), I don't require it.

Here's the thing Trixsta, do you only want to be able to approach and meet new people (male and female) ONLY when youve got your 'tolerence juice' in you? Dont you want to be able to have enough core confidence to do that where ever you are? if you say no I dont believe you , because not wanting to improve as person is just pure denial, its in our blood to want to develop and experience personal growth. I can do this anywhere, the reason it is harder on a night as drunk girls expect to be hit on and can be unpredictable sometimes. Having core confidence on the day and feeling more comfortable with a few beers inside you is perfectly fine

So assuming you want to improve yourself (you clearly do else you wouldnt be here), now its all up to whether you are willing to go that extra mile to develop yourself into this 'new you' but that doesnt need social crutches any more. I for one love meeting people wherever I go....I dont understand why someone would want to limit their gaming location to a dark night club, and not just that, but also being dependent on having alcohol in ones system. I mean you cant walk around typsey everywhere you go right? Learn to develop the state that you are mostly in. ie. sober. You will find the guys that are really good with women are able to work their magic without alcohol, im not saying they dont drink, but they can clean up while being sober....because they are being the real 'THEM', and this shines through. see my reply above

And yes it really IS ok to drink and game as you have said...but if you really want to transform yourself and develop real confidence, do so soba until youre at a point where the alcohol is not being used as a crutch anymore. It will improve many more areas of your life than just approaching women. In addition to that, there is no point in being your 'smooth' and tipsey self in the club only to be a socially shy individual when out on a date with her (unless youre swigging from a hip flask before your date arrives...sounds bad doesnt it, it is.). glad we agree, but as I don't use alcohol as a social crutch for approaching women, merely tolerance juice (being with a load of drunks whilst sober is no fun is it?) ths isn't really relevant to what i'm saying

And I agree that gaming should certainly not BE your life, but socializing to me plays a HUGE part of it (i love people) and a portion of that socializing involves meeting women. To be good with women you need to be good with people, and you dont need alcohol to be good with people.

If you drink while you're out, that's fine! but drinking with the intention to help loosen you up for socialising, is a bad idea.... why?

Alcohol dependancy can fuck up your entire life.

I drink on a night out because I like corona, and because I like to have tolerance juice. Imagine being completely sober and you have drunk people saying ridiculous things, they are throwing up, generally being cunts and you can't be bothered to put up with them. A few beers solves this, never did anyone any harm - unless you become dependant on it for more than these reasons. If you need alcohol to pull, or because you just need to get drunk, for no other reason that you like it etc, this is a bad sign.

I don't drink during the day for anything sociable, sometimes I don't even drink on nights out but I generally keep getting annoyed when some drunk girl is telling me how much she loves me and keeps pulling my top.

Perhaps we disagree on these points, but when you say dependancy can fuck up your life, you're completely right - but only if you let it. Like you said, when you find yourself making excuses to drink that is a sign of alcoholism, but drinking just to enjoy your night? Don't really class it as an excuse.

Try meeting women and not drinking for a week. You will feel stupid for ever relying on booze.

If it helps you, do it,

Just curious, you don't feel bad at all for hooking up with a drunk girl while you're sober? I've met some pretty self conscious girls aka drunk girls before and they are rediculous. I'm not promoting drinking and gaming but if you're sober and the girl has been drinking I believe that's against common values correct? That's why I don't even hook up with drunk girls unless I had a beer because you can get in trouble with people. Unless I'm mistaken and have been fed the wrong things.

Just curious, you don't feel bad at all for hooking up with a drunk girl while you're sober? I've met some pretty self conscious girls aka drunk girls before and they are rediculous. I'm not promoting drinking and gaming but if you're sober and the girl has been drinking I believe that's against common values correct? That's why I don't even hook up with drunk girls unless I had a beer because you can get in trouble with people. Unless I'm mistaken and have been fed the wrong things.

Just curious, you don't feel bad at all for hooking up with a drunk girl while you're sober? I've met some pretty self conscious girls aka drunk girls before and they are rediculous. I'm not promoting drinking and gaming but if you're sober and the girl has been drinking I believe that's against common values correct? That's why I don't even hook up with drunk girls unless I had a beer because you can get in trouble with people. Unless I'm mistaken and have been fed the wrong things.