An approach I've been planning to field test this weekend is a straight one, so it should have a "natural" spontaneity to it:

-Me: (with a sincere, little smile) "You look interesting. Tell me, though, do you have character behind that pretty face of yours?"

-HB: "Yeah"/"Sure"/"Of course I do!"/etc.

-Me: "Really? If you could be whatever you wanted to, whoever you wanted to, who would you be?"

You should get easy threads to work on after that. If the target is in a two (or larger) -set, you'll have to engage the group: after she answers with something that most likely isn't "my self/me", you go "Wrong answer". You then address someone else in the group and go: "Help your friend out a bit."/something of the kind.

You can work the thread however you want to. If you're just trying to get rid of your approach anxiety, you can leave it at "Wrong answer" and disengage.

[quote="puppeteer"]An approach I've been planning to field test this weekend is a straight one, so it should have a "natural" spontaneity to it:

-Me: (with a sincere, little smile) "You look interesting. Tell me, though, do you have character behind that pretty face of yours?"

-HB: "Yeah"/"Sure"/"Of course I do!"/etc.

-Me: "Really? If you could be whatever you wanted to, whoever you wanted to, who would you be?"
quote]

I get where your coming from on this dude, but I wouldn't use this. I just don't think it will work. This is how I think it would work.

You: (with a sincere, little smile) "You look interesting. Tell me, though, do you have character behind that pretty face of yours?"

HB: What?

You: Well your pretty but I was wandering if you had any character behind that face?

HB: Yea I guess... (at this point I think the HB would turn away from you, give her girlfriends a raised eyebrow expression and they would avoid you for the rest of the night)

I could be wrong so no offence intended, but thats just my take on it.

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Honestly you'd have to say it to an HB10 like a total jerk if you want to go anywhere with it. Otherwise, there's much better ones out there.

Best line I've been given.

"My name is 'You're hot.' Say hi to me."
(me) "Hi, you're hot."
"I know."

Uh oh.

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Hi, do you have ANY idea how cute you look?

Thank you for your honest opinion. I'm sorry you were never popular in mid school, didn't kiss a boy until you were 19, and have never been made love to, or even fucked at all-- but that doesnt give you the right to simply waltz into this forum with your poor grammar and your uninteresting banter. Only guys analyze the show, and any good player adds variety to his pickups, as well as dramatic routine changes every so often too.

So thanks for the warning (if that's what it was), but no thanks. By the way, are you as masculine as your name? What kind of a woman is named Billie?? Also, you have a lot of free time for a girl don't you? Making posts on exclusively male forums..


To all you other "players" some of this material is decent, a lot of it is simply excruciating to read. Don't take any of it too seriously. While these canned lines can fill the void, they are not exactly golden. A confident, intelligent, rejection weathered man is what (straight) women live for. Once you accept that denial can happen for many different reasons (lesbian, boyfriend, *insecure*,bad day, cock blocked, etc.) you enter the Threshold of Invincibility. Women can detect such a man, and immediately label them as Alpha Male. Uncode her body language and her speech, look out for cockblocks before they happen, pass her tests before she gives them to you, and challenge her.

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-Breaking hearts since 1998

If youre at a party and you see a bunch of girls taking photos of each other, reach ur hand and show (with a hand motion) ur going to take a picture
they give u the camera and stand close
and u turn the camera do a silly face and take a photo of yourslef, they laugh
then u show them to come closer and actually take their picture,
then u show them to get closer again and this time turn the camera and take a photo with them

most of the time they will, touch/kiss/ do something with you

after that I would live the set and come back later

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a gitrl bumps into you at a club and you say "Did you just touched my ass?"

and continu from there "that will be 20 £ please" "that is not free yoou know" ...

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My openers typically consist of telling a joke. For me, telling a joke helps melt away the approach anxiety and generally creates a positive vibe to begin a conversation, routine, etc.

This one has a high success rate for me

There are two trees standing in a forest, one tre notices that there is a small tree growing between them and it asks the other tree that if the small tree is a son of a beach or a son of a birch? The other tree says I don't know, a little later a bird gets on that small tree. The tree ask the bird "hey you know a lot about trees, is that small tree a son of a beach or a son of a birch?" the bird says "hold on let me check, this isnt a son of a beach or a son of a birch but rather the finest piece of ash I ever put my pecker into."

Sounds to me that this is something that can only be executed by confident, highly experienced PUAs. Do you think a newb can actually pull it off with a few practice?

Are you saying that you do this as a cold approach? As in with complete strangers? I find it hard to believe that they would actually give you the camera when you're about to grab it.

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

This one sounds brilliant. How many times have you field tested it?

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

This one may offend some because it involves religion so use at your own risk:

This is a true story of a friend of mine. I took the story and added in some NLP. Used for sets of two or more.

pua: Ok I want to run this situation by you girls and get your opinions on it. I have a friend who's been in a relationship for two years and things were going great until recently when the gf stopped going out with my friend. They didn't break up but she just couldn't leave her house anymore except for school or work. After a while the gf couldn't even call my friend. Now they're only talking on MSN. Now there is no reason for this but my friend suspects that his gf's father has forbidden the relationship because my friend isn't orthodox. That's pretty messed up eh?

girls: [agree]

pua: Now what do you think my friend should do?

girls: [suggestions]

pua: see I suggested the romantic 'ride in on a white horse and be with her' method because that's just the way I am, father be damned

[turn to target, look into her eyes]

pua: now imagine that you and i have been going out for two years and [make sure you're looking into her eyes] you're really crazy about me, we're in love, every touch [put your hand on her upper arm/shoulder, gently caress without being creepy] just sends electricity through your body, and one day daddy says we can't see each other, what do you do?

(my target got that look in her eyes like she could envision it and liked it but tried to hide the pleasure she got from such thoughts)

[target responds] (mine happened to say her dad wouldn't do that, so i had to get my head back above sand, so to speak)

[encourage discussion between the girls and contribute discussion points, move to another routine]


This didn't make them melt but it created conversation and incited some reaction within my target, even if she tried to hide it.

Another true story, same friend, he makes poor choices

"Ok let me get your opinion on this. My friend has been committed to a relationship for a year and a half now but he has only seen his girlfriend maybe three times max in that time because she lives out of town. They only talk on MSN and when they have seen each other the most they've done is hug and hold hands. Are they really in relationship?"

This could paint you as a jerk for thinking relationships need to be physical but try it out anyway, it's quick and creates discussion.

Ok, this one is very particular to the situation but I accidentally stumbled on it and had some decent success.

Basically, look for the girl nearby texting on her phone. She'll probably be zoned out from friends, by herself, or just standing awkward. Use that opportunity to open and immediately drop a neg. Say something like, "Hey! You can't take up space on the dancefloor standing there texting?" Of course, you've get to give her a devilish grin of some sorts. A little more banter...then get her to promise that she won't be texting and she'll work on having more fun here. Sounds juvenile, but I made one girl pinky-promise which turned into immediate kino and dancing. This worked several times in similar situations.

could you guys please tell me what you think of this opinion opener I've thought of today?

me: Hi, can I have your opinion on a relationship situation my friend was in?

HB: Ok

me: So my friend had to leave town for 11 days and had his girlfriend take care of his dog by visiting the apartment to make sure the food and water bowls are full. However, through the whole 11 days the girlfriend entirely forgot to visit the dog so it had no food or water until my friend returned. Although he was upset with the girl he didn't decide to break up with her. Do you think he should've broke up with her?

HB: blah blah blah

me: I would've left her if I was in my friend's situation since I'm not particularly fond of people that don't take care of pets when its there given responsibility.

HB: blah blah blah

Then I would go into that cold reading routine that tells if the person is a cat or dog person.

Hi guys, I'm F-Stop and I'm new on the forum...Like some of you, I've had relatively good success with women, but need a brush up and re-calibration from years of bad habits.

I'm pretty reserved with opening, and am looking to gain some inspiration here. I've already found a lot of helpful stuff, so thanks.

That said, I had really good success with this one: (hope it's not on the previous 27 pages of this thread).

Before going out, draw a really bad picture on your arm. Use whatever hand you don't usually write with. It should look scribbly and really really really bad. Like a house drawn by a 4 year old or something.

Approach a girl / set with (classic), "Can I get your opinion on something?", roll up your sleeve and reveal the drawing "Does this look stupid? I was thinking of getting this as a tattoo but am having cold feet".

The group laughs, gives their opinion on the shitty artwork. Laugh with them. When everyone is done giving their opinion (or not), "I was at my friend's kid's birthday party earlier today (if it's a weekend it's believable) painting faces .It was a Transformer theme party and everyone wanted to be painted looking like Optimus Prime or Bumblebee. I volunteered because I'm the only one of my friends that can draw moderately well and, well, who doesn't like free cake, right?! One of the kids thought he looked so cool as Optimus that he returned the favor and drew this little house (or whatever it's supposed to be) on my arm (looking down and touching the tattoo). Cute, eh?".

Now, if done well, this is a MAJOR DV. You have demonstrated humor, confidence, loyalty, volunteerism, good with children, artistic, all in one opening. You have also probably disarmed anyone who would potentially AMOG you or chicks who would cock-block.

Leads into a good convo about Tattoos, or anything else for that matter....

F-Stop