Gorilla Theory is something that I have talked about from time to time and even discussed on my former blog. This is the idea of social programming. It's an interesting concept.

Some researches and I can't remember where in the United States did some studies with gorilla's that they held in captivity. The researchers started out by placing 3 gorillas’ that didn't know each other in a cage. Every so often they would hang a banana from the cage.

The gorilla's could smell the food and would try to get the banana but it was too high and just out of reach. After doing this several times the researchers then decided to add some basic square blocks to the cage as well. After a while of the gorilla's pushing the blocks around they made some steps out of them and where able to retrieve the banana. The gorillas were happy and so were the researches at the remarkable problem solving abilities displayed by the primates.

This process went on for several days. The researchers would scatter the blocks then suspend another banana from the cage. The gorilla's would work together to assemble the blocks and get their banana from the top.

The researchers then decided a new challenge for the gorillas. One day while assembling the blocks and going for the banana the researchers decided to take a hose and completely soak the all the apes in the cage. During this time each gorilla that went for the banana would then be sprayed with water to discourage him. This process was again repeated, and the gorilla would be sprayed again.

Over all 3 original gorilla's in the cage would not go for the banana nor touch the blocks. So the researchers took out one of the original gorillas and then put a new gorilla in the cage. They then suspended a banana from the top. Over time this new gorilla figured things out and tried to assemble the blocks to get the treat. But an alarming thing happened. The other two gorillas’ would start physically attacking the new gorilla to prevent him from surely getting them wet.

This experiment was repeated over and over with consistent results. The researchers eventually swapped out all the original gorillas for new ones to the point none of the gorilla's in the cage were ever sprayed with water. However, every time a gorilla start assembling the blocks and going for the banana the other gorillas would attack him without every knowing why they were doing it. They simply did it because that was the way things had always been done.

My point here is this. A lot of information is passed around the forum simply because that's the way something has always been done. Some of the people supplying the advice are not sure why it's always been done that way but feel confident in their efforts. Because when they went for the banana they were told that was wrong.

There are some basic truths to meeting women and getting better with attracting the opposite sex. However, there are a lot of "rules" or "guidelines" that have been proven to work most of the time. Just because there are these things don't give up going for the banana and trying new things on your own. You may find a better method for getting that banana after all.

~Jon

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Interesting story. It's always good to know not only the rule, but the REASON behind the rule so that you can know when to break it or when it's become outdated.

Never take anything as given, even if someone you trust completely tells you - unless he tells you WHY.

If you understand the theory or reasons given, you can make a critical judgement on whether to accept that advice, without blindly following everything you are a told like a sheep.

Like when Columbus told everyone the world was round, they just assumed he was nuts. However when he gave his reasons, people began to make judgements.

This is kind of off-topic, but has as a historical FYI, it was already very well known that the earth was spherical, the question was simply whether Columbus could actually reach India just by sailing west (it was unexplored, so the distance might be to great to sail, or he might have run into who knows what that could cause a loss of the ships). It's an urban legend that his contemporaries thought the world was flat (people had known it was round for several hundred and sometimes thousands of years - depending on which society you look at).

Actually, I guess that is not too far off point. The things we get passed down and "believe" can many times be unearthed and proven incorrect. I mean how many things has science proven wrong against popular belief. Hell, take my one of my favorite shows Mythbusters... Typically, in the show they prove there is a small element of truth in every myth they confront but many times they are incorrect.

Same with PUA I guess many things that have been passed down may have some elements of truth in them but they are not always correct for the individual.

Challenge what you think you know about the game guys! It's an interesting journey to say the least.

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brilliant post, as usual js.

it's true though. i don't like to see new guys come in here and just eat up everything they're told without a second thought. the point of this forum (at least, i thought) is to teach you basics so you get the confidence to expand and do what works for you and what fits your personality.

always ask why. if we stop asking, we stop living.

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AMEN!

There is so much I have learned from challenging what I thought the rules were. I learned that it really doesn't matter what you open with if even stupid stuff if you are confident amongst some other traits.

I have learned that the use of negs Online are rarely if ever needed. Not to mention in person negs can be substituted for other things to achieve the same result.

That walking up to a girl and going completely sexual instantly doesn't necessarily mean a slap in the face.

The list just goes on and on. Imagine what we may learn tomorrow from challenging what we think we know!

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animals have always fascinated me with there ability's to adapt to there environments. such as the gorillas in this instance they used the blocks to get what they want. other animals would have died before they got the damn banana but we can also learn from these animal like a characteristic of an Alpha male. Now i am not an evolutionist in any sort of way but these damn gorillas are damn smart.

great post

Adrienne Rich: False history gets made all day, any day, the truth of the new is never on the news.
Good post !

[ Johnny B ]

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Good post! Ironically I'm already eating a banana for breakfast haha

Excellent point. This is why I try (and encourage others) to both back up the advice with the reasons why it works, and/or cite the mPUA who gave the advice in the first place. That way you learn the theory behind the techniques, and you can go looking for the mPUA who you think has the right ideas.

Don't get me wrong but an advice I figured out on my own is worth 100 that mPUAs told me to do. I won't be able to quote you a book, nor give you a name, but I can tell you it works for me. now will it work for you? I think that's the whole point of the post; See for yourself and don't judge people who do it otherwise.

There is many ways to success. It's where you go, not how you got there that matters.

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I completely agree with you here that you just have to see what works for you and not to judge people who do things differently. Everything I do that works for me won't necessarily work for you and vice versa. That's the whole point is everyone is different and so are the targets we want.

I try to remind myself that there are tons of guys out there meet girls every day without knowing half of this stuff.

Jon

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