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Heya man,

I forgot to add some of these questions in my previous posts. But I dared myself to ask you.

1. I find that when I'm in set, when the conversation already flows, I'm scared of her to being too comfortable and I'll be dropped to the friend zone instantly. So that's why I always try to break rapport and try hard to always qualify and mantain the attraction high. That way sometimes I can't enjoy the conversation. Sometimes I even try to DHV when it's not so much needed anymore. Is this correct thing to do?

If not, what should I do? Is the LJBF zone is something you can control? I know that the answer for western culture is sexualization, but here in Indonesia, the only key to get the kiss or makeouts, etc is relationship. So u can't really sexualize things to get the girl. No kiss before BF-GF's relationship! So, what's the solution for LJBF here?

2. I'm gaming 2 girls right now, the other one just got out from a relationship the other one get dumped after the guy took her virginity. So both girls could have the "all men are jerks" mindset.

How do I solve this,mate?

3. Is social circle game the ONLY way to our hands on the perfect 10?

Thanks for everything man

Best pal,
Steven ;)
Round number 2, desertfox565!

1.Don't be so afraid of the friend zone. In fact, I want to challenge you to grow your female social circle to be twice the size it is now. Get a minimum of 5 brand new girl friends that you can actually go and hang out with whenever you want and then get 5 more casual girl friends. I found that my game doubled when I was hanging out with majority of girls, most of whom were JUST friends.

2.Solve the “all men are jerks” mindset by not being a jerk. Make sure that you keep everything open honest right from the beginning. Make sure they know that you're not looking for anything exclusive and just want to have open relationships with them. As long as you do that they won't feel used and you wont have anything to worry about.

3.Unless you are a billionaire, a movie/music producer or have access to something incredible that they way, social circle is the only way to get 10s. You won't get Angelina Jolie unless your Brad Pitt. And if you think about it, even that happened by social circle as they were working on the movie Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Keep at it mate, and make those female friends! Grow the social circle so you can game those 10s.


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Hey, forum nice

What do when girl plays hard to get
Hey biffle,

Girls play hard to get all the time... However they don't know that you have more tools under your belt because you are learning this and they're not. Best thing to do is to get into her friend group so that you're in with her social circle. Once you're in go out with the girls and with her friends, then she will go out too. She can't ignore you then!

Good luck mate.


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Hi Adam. I'm 28 and from Bournemouth. As you probably know this town is great for bars and clubs.. something like 40 venues open on a Friday and Saturday night. Trouble is 90% of the girls are under 21 and the type of girl i like is usually mid twenties and above.

My style is very conversational so i rely on girls being stationary and i do well with older women but the majority of the crowds and the bars are high energy and not really my thing. (i also cant dance and wouldnt want to learn either).

I can stay in the few decent bars and also do day game but i feel im wasting a lot of days and opportunities by not getting to grips with these crazy drunken girls. (some have great bodies, even if they cant stand still or hold convo for 2 seconds).

So my question is what tips do you have to cut out all the rubbish and get straight through to these young party girls WITHOUT dance floor game?

Hey Guitaro,

You can still game so successfully in a loud party environment without setting foot on the dance floor. That's only one small portion of it. But at the same time, if your style is conversational and less rowdy then I am a firm believer in stick to what you are good at. If you don't like the crowded bars where everyone is much younger then go to a venue where you can be with the crowd you enjoy.

Venues like lounges, pubs, high-class hotel bars are all good areas for night game that is not in a night club. Use those places and you can then be in your element. Which will mean your game will thrive and you will get the best results.

Don't try to fix something that isn't broken. Good luck mate.


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hey adam,

i decided to sarge today at mcgill. i managed to record my interactions. i decided to post my first interaction on campus which was decent. it was like a 12 minute interaction. i was about to go deep rapport and stuff but she was busy from the start... and had to further continue studying.
nonetheless i approached and managed to have an interesting conversation with her.

btw i dont number close because im approaching daygame only for the purpose of practicing my conversational muscle. im really good at the nightclubs and i am rather talented with fast escalation and getting girls back to my place. however im quite bad at the emotional connection thing so im practicing it now.

so i was hoping you could gimme some tips on my daygame. what could i have done better and what should i improve on.. should i approach girls that are studying like i did.

yes i know i speak extremely fast and i figured out a way to combat it but i just got to get use to it and speaking to myself in my room.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/s3ckws

thanks in advance
Hey Dealz,

Daygame, especially on college campuses, is sooo fun and easy. You have instant rapport with the girls because she assumes that you are also a student.

People are at college to meet new people and party. On campus, at parties, at bars... those are all acceptable places to meet people. You have a zillion things automatically in common (same school, same social group if you're at the same party, same educational aspirations, etc..) which will build comfort almost immediately. Use that to your advantage and open them all, whether they are sitting quietly reading or not.

If you see her sitting with a chemistry book then you can say “Hey, sorry to bother you, but I couldn't help notice that you are absorbed in your book. Chemistry is a hard subject, have you taken organic yet?” From there you can then ask why she is studying that and what she plans to do when she is done, which is initiating that deep comfort that you mentioned.

Keep opening and practicing and have fun with it!


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Hey Adam.
Just gotta say I love all your stuff, like you explain it so it sounds so simple and easy to understand, and you teach guys to act normal instead of running these weird routines. You're amazing.
Anyway I have a few problems. I've always been bad socially, mostly thanks to my parents being too over protective of me when I was younger. At the moment I have no friends, and I struggle having conversations even with my own family. I'm in my second year at college, and I still have no friends in my class. I'm still really quiet and shy because I struggle with coming up with anything to say. On breaks they all leave in their groups and never invite me, so I'm always alone. I don't blame them since I don't talk to them much, but I want to hang around with them and obviously I wanna make the most of being in college. I want to make a lot of friends and build a social circle, but I have no idea what to do. Sometimes I've wanted to say something and felt like it would be weird since I've always been quiet before. What do you think would help me out here?
Also I talk to quite a few girls online, and I seem to be able to easily get them interested enough to meet me, but then if I meet them I fuck it up because I run out of things to say really quickly. Help me please? :)

Hey WillieB.Long,

Man, I completely understand this! Being an extrovert and outwardly social is not something that comes easy to everyone. But like I wrote above to Dealz, people are in college to meet people and socialize. But like you said, it is much harder for you to get started so it just means that you need to start slower than others.

When you're in class start making casual conversation with those around you. Ask your neighbor if they have the notes from the previous class... Start a short casual conversation about how the test/homework you just had was really hard... Make a random comment about the professors hair... Start off really slow and get yourself used to just being a bit social. We can then take it from there!

Let me know how that goes mate. Once that foundation is laid we can build it up!


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Hey Adam I know this stuff has already been said but some of the content you provide is really useful and I'm pretty glad I found your site. Anyway just got a question I guess its an inner game one but heres a brief outline of me so far.

I'm about a month into finding all of this information about PU. I've managed to number close 6 girls and take two of them out on dates one of which I Kiss closed I've got a day 2 with the girl I K/closed in a week or so and I'm meeting a girl I number closed at the casino on tuesday (she's a dealer there and if you knew me a month ago the idea of me approaching a girl and asking her for her number didn't seem possible) so I feel like im making progress although im still finding my feet.

However the other day I was out shopping/sarging and this girl that worked in the store who was a part time model was there. I went in indirect as I'm still trying to get used to direct approach and got to know her a bit used some kino when I went to number close she smiled and said "Sorry I have a boyfriend" (lol kindest rejection award goes to her I suppose) and today I tried to number close a girl that works in a bookstore and she said "I have a lover, I dont even give the people I work with my number." I tried to bring it back from that and not let it bother me infront of her I just kept a big smile on my face and told her I'd see her next week to pick up my books.

However after both of those approaches my confidence seemed shattered and I couldn't bring myself to approach another girl while feeling like that as I didn't think I'd be giving off the right vibe. After approaching a girl in the beginning and getting a "no" what did you do to quickly recover from this and approach again? After time does it not bother as much getting a "no" or does it depend more on your personality? Do you do anything or have any techniques/tips before approaching to build confidence and get into "state" or do you just approach? Hows married life?

Adam

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Hi Adam
I've long been a fan of you and your work. You put in 200% more effort into helping others than the other big names out there as you've shown with this thread.... Thank you! I wish I could spend a day with you just to rack your brain about pick up lol. But my question is:
In your formula,

(C - R) + Q +SE = A

Do DHV stories fall into the equation somewhere? Would it be a form of qualification? Also, I have no problem building comfort and breaking rapport. But whenever I try qualify and escalate it feels unnatural to me. To my knowledge, I'm supposed to reward her compliance to my qualifiers with escalation. When I'm qualifying, it feels like I'm asking too many questions. How long should qualification last? For example, I'll ask her, "You don't smoke, do you" (I don't like smokers:p), and then follow that question up with a "Why" type question. But after that, I begin to feel that I am asking too many questions if I continue with my qualifying questions.

Thanks again. You're like the Tony Robbins of game!


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Hi Adam,

Hey Adam I'm going to keep this as short as possible as I know you have a lot of other stuff to do. Here's my situation. Basically gaming a girl at my college that lives with her boyfriend. I didnt really talk to her until today when I was with my friend who is about to go out with her friend. All four of us talked and me and the girl (that lives with her bf) made a lot of eye contact. O and she use to live in Cali with another guy but they broke up. And I think she said she was engaged to this guy she lives with now. So I was wondering what advise you would give on gaming a girl that lives with her bf?


Thanks,
Omar


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Hey Adam! Big fan of your work, style and generosity.
I'm new to this community and the idea of learning about attraction. I read your book, "Principles of attraction", and had several "Aha I get it" sort of moments. In the past, I had a habit of falling into the friend zone with girls I fancied. Since reading your book, it became blindingly obvious that this was because I didn't break rapport enough!
Well anyways, on your site, attraction explained, tutorial 6 is a live daygame breakdown that you do. It seems like you didn't break rapport with her, but rather jumped from comfort to qualification. You built comfort, and then seemed to jump to qualification with the question, "What's your favourite thing about England, and your favourite thing about Mexico?".
So my question is: Why didn't you break rapport with her? What indicated to you that you could just jump to qualification?
Thanks again!


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Hey Adam. I was wondering what are the best ways to get a girl to qualify herself? I seem to be struggling with this, as a lot of the time when I try to get the girl qualifying herself by asking questions they don't give me proper answers. Like they will say ''that's for me to know and for you to find out'', or just a shit answer like ''I dunno''.


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Hi Adam
I have a somewhat unusual question. Could you share some stories about your days starting out, and the failures you went through? Could you share a little about what went on in your early days?


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Hey Adam,

So I'm 17 and I've been into pick up for...coming up on three years now (fuck its been long) and I think its time I finally go to a bootcamp...that and I got the cash!

I was wondering if you'd allow a 17 year old to go to a bootcamp in LA with you, possibly on the 13th, or in january? I figured I wouldn't be able to go to a bar or anything, but I would enjoy learning it, taking notes and all that.

In the past 8 months I've been on a break for school, and I'm just starting back up, I don't remember much, and definitely can't game girls anymore so instead of buying alot of e-books I think a bootcamp would be more beneficial to me.

What do you think? I can pay right now ;)

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hi afc adam. i have been going out with a girl, long distance for about 8 months. i dont get to see her lots maybe a couple of times a month. i feel she isnt hooked in enough, she loves me but not in love. she doesnt in my opinion make enough contact with me. maybe im being paro im usually a bang it and leave guy, but i have stuck around and not great in the longterm stuff. how do i get her to be more hooked? wat can i do?


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A Don Juan should be able to pull anything off and although I've found e-books on how to get back an ex-girlfriend I haven't found nothing on just getting back that special plate.

So far I have a few targets to experiment on and their interest levels range so it's not a clean body for a case study, some of these girls may jump all over any openings I make and the most important of these girls would probably just ignore me (the girl who really triggered me to try to figure this out)

I would really like to get back this special girl that I had a short 2 week thing with before she slowly short me out of her life and went back to her ex-boyfriend.


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wow great thread adam, thx for giving up your time and helping us
free of charge, a lot of pus's charge for everything and were lucky to have
u to save us lol you really do want to help us and i appreciate that.

i seem to be having a problem getting female friends. i took u as my inspiration and i want to have a lot of female friends, the thing is all the girls i talk to seem to like me
and when they realize i dont like them they distance them self from me. one day im hugging with this girl 3 days later she wont let touch her (hand on shoulder stuff like that) and shes less intrested in me. (girls are really selfish lol) how do i keep that from happening? maybe its not that they like me maybe its something else either way i need some advice

thx in advance, cheers mate
Daniel


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