at the same dance party, there were two HB 8.5 dancing with one guy. obviously one of the girls was the guys girlfriends but the other was kind of tagging along i guess. anyway i did the line "u are the sexiest dancer, blah blah, i met 4 tonight, blah blah, ia m going to call you number 4" line and she replied with "number 4?! try number 1!" and i danced with her for a little and then it fizzled out, after maybe a minute of dancing with her and she just went back dancing with the guy and girl who were intimate, and i think i said come dance, and she said she enjoyed dancing with her friends. how should i have played this one? maybe i should have said "you know you're actually number 5" while i was dancing with her to see if she would try to satisfy me and get into it a little more. what do you guys think? suggustions appreciated -Rye

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Maybe the problem is that you jumped from attraction to kino (if there was any) too quickly. I'm impressed with the opener, I really didn't think it'd work when I first read it. But I imagine there wasn't too much conversation or attraction-building going on dancing with her, and maybe that's why it fizzled out.

I think people fail all the time with girls at clubs is simple, cause enless the girl thinks your brad pitt she's not going to dance with you alot without knowing who the hell you are. I see TONS of guys simply walk up behind girls and try to dance with them, and within 5seconds the girls leave. Especially groups of girls, I was friends with a girl once who would always go to clubs, she told me that when she went with her friends and some guy came up behind them, they had signals for if he was cute/not cute/creeper etc. Stick with game and let dancing follow

OK point taken, what if you went up to a HB8 or higher and said "you're really not a good dancer are you?" got her interest, "why would you think that?" and then you say "because you aren't dancing with any guys, just your girl friends, which means in my mind, you are a bad dancer"

"i am a good dancer" banking that she will say that IDK i am going to have to experiment. then you say "prove it" and bang. how'd that be? what do you guys think?

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personally in my experience if your trying to actually meet a girl in a club-like enviroment don't do it on the dance floor itself... Its like the Dane cook bit about chicks...They go out to DANCE!! where as most guys only dance to get the chicks not for themselves...

Take care of the "meeting and attraction phases" if thats what you want to call it off the dance floor... make yourself interesting, then go dance and neg away w/ w/e you used on that girl w/ the #4 dancer thing.

Essentially dancing up on her is an 100% display of a male's interest towards the female... you really can't do all that much as far as making her feel that your uninsterested and therefore make her wonder why your not...The only case i would use dancing on the dance floor to make the pickup is if you have some actual dancing experience. I did latin ballroom competing nationally and i still i've only done it once or twice but w/ great success... by taking her away from the typical grinding shit you move her to your frame and she automatically is no longer in control of the situation where as in your situation she had complete control to leave as soon as she got bored of the usual bullshit grinding.

This is my opinion of course.. feel free to disagree.

I think "clubbing" can be a really fun time but in the way of sarging it is just really difficult. When you consider the overall SPAM of the club it is not ideal for sarging. LOUD music, people are cluttered all over the place. The AMOG's are everywhere, and isolation seems to be an impossibility. Now all this sounds really bad and that sarging should be avoided in these types of places. But i say lets find something that works in clubs and fine tune the hell out of it.

hey man, i'll work on it and let you know.. they are too common to disregard as places to sarge. i'm all over it, hopefully i will post something within a week.

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U didnt share enough but from what I have gathered it looks like you let her take control your opening was well done but her reply was cheeky you shouldnt let her get away with it ask her to prove it. Then you fluff until the time dwindles well placed negs then BANG hit her with a serious tone about the night how you enjoyed and how can you have it again #-close then easy up make sure you gave her a time costraint other wise she will have you waiting for everything.

time constraint, good call forgot about it. i did say "i will promote you to a 3 for being fiesty" though which was money. the time constraint definitely broke me though in retrospect. i kind of hung around her, should have said the "one minute" whatever thing, THEN said the neg, THEN left and danced with the nearest girl, make her a little jealous. i will do it next time. thanks for the advice -Rye

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