Hey guys,

Here is what is bothering me:

I can open with out any problems, but I fail in talking to the girl after I open her. Usually when I open them they look like a deer in front of the headlights. But then my brain freezes and for some stupid reason it starts into the "interview" mode and asks stupid questions like: are you from around here? what do you do for fun... etc etc...

All I want from you guys is to help me "build" a routine that I can use both in night game and day game right after i open a set. Just something to fall back on.

I guess what I0m missing is that one bit before i go into a more "unusual" routine like the cube or the 5 lies etc...

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

here is an idea: talk about yourself for a while, let her ask questions and when she does, don't answer them in a straight manner.
For instance, when you ask her if she is from around here, don't move straight to the next question (like in an interview). You can start telling her that this is your first day in town and that you are really enjoying it... you tell her that earlier you went visiting the "whatever place turists usually go in your town".
If she is at least a bit interested, she will ask you where you're from and what you are doing there. Then you can start having a real conversation...
You can make up stuff, as long as you get her interested enough so you can go on seducing her.

Well i used to make up a completely new identity (btw this is an awesome practice when you start opening sets for the night).

The thing is that english isn't my first language, but I speak it as good as any american, with the accent that you guys have, I also do Irish accent so i would make up my life on the fly if she asks me. But the thing about this approach is that hardly anyone who speaks english here (I'm from Croatia) will reject a "tourist" asking anything. This helps in reducing AA.

But the thing is even when I would open a set like that I would fall back on some boring crap like "so... you're from around here?"

This one girl that I opened on a tehno party just came from New York and loved the fact that I said that I am a "new yorker (yeah right XD )".

With her I managed to get into some push-pull rutine (the 5 min bodyguard) but as soon as my wing showed up with his low energy and tried to talk to to her friend so that i could try to isolate this girl (once i got her talking i literally droped a few jaws in the club 'cause she was one of the hottest in there...) But then her firend left and she was all like "where's my friend?" and after that it all got ruined...


But, that aside, that was the only girl that i managed to get into some rutines with... the fact of the matter is i have no idea what to talk after i open them.... i devised this one routine (but it's only good for night game) on about how a couple approached me in the middle of the street and offered me to have a threesome with them just because the girl taught i was cute (true story).... but for day game, this thing just isn't "suitable"... So I guess i'm trying a routine to use both in day game and night game...

Although I do live an interesting life, and I do have activities that are both interesting and that I can talk about for days without end.... I'd rather keep that part of my life private (when I start talking about that people see me as a weird scary guy and start to avoid me). Although I am trying to "fix-up" my lifestyle by becoming a DJ so to have high social proof and interesting stories to tell.... but until I manage with that I'm stuck with this boring life of mine (besides my private segment).

also, could I start with a neg perhaps, right after the opener?

and one more thing:

is this, and if it is can you clarify why, a neg:

I like your Shirt/T-Shirt/Whatever my friend has one just like that, she bought it at a discount sale.

Haha, that's awesome, I'm definitely stealing that.

As far as "mid-game", or continuing the conversation, I think a lot of it is just developing your conversation skills. Make observations, ask interesting questions and listen to what she says so that you can ask her intelligent questions about what she says to continue the flow of conversation.

Another thing is that I have three funny stories in my head that I can pull out, if I get a brain freeze. But generally, conversation skills are just something that you need to practice.

ok, so funny stories, observations, interesting questions, these are all acceptable?(btw i'm a bit of a social retard at these things)

what kind of funny stories? anecdotes or something just funny in general?

I'm not a huge fan of memorising material, but if you need to get through this sticking point, then it's probably good to have a few DHV stories in your back pocket ready to go if there's a lull in the conversation. Try and think of anything exciting and or funny that happened to you, which involves positive attributes about you in it.

Tell the story in a descriptive way where you tell her what you were thinking and especially FEELING at the time it was happening - so you leave open the opportunity to ask - "have you ever been in that situation / thought that / felt that?" if she says yes, then she gets involved and she tells you a story, so now you have material from her story to playfully make fun of her about, or qualify her about, and then you have the open thread of the rest of your story to fall back on if you run out of stuff to say about her story.

After one good story and a few laughs from her, be sure to rapport break or neg to keep the tension and make her build back the rapport, thus getting emotionally invested in the interaction, because that will seriously help to build attraction.

well i don't have any DHV stories.... well there might be one but i don't think it's apropriate douring the day game....

I find it hard to believe that you've gone through your entire life without having something funny or cool happen to you. Think a little bit harder.

If you still can't think of anything, just slightly modify a story about you. This is called embellishment. I generally don't like straight-up lying to a girl, mostly because I don't want to have to remember something that didn't happen, but also because people generally don't like being deceived.