I think I am toein the line with this girl but im not sure. She calls me all the time when shes drunk, i dont think i initiated kino enough, etc. but i need to know exactly when im in the friend zone. I have never heard a solid definition of the divinding line. If anyone has good definitions please share.

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i was in this same situation than i expressed my feelings and failed.. You need to see her more often and do kino in my opinion.. just always talking to her wont work man. But dont be too nice/shoulder to lean on etc.

today she drove 30 minutes to pick me up and take me to wawa i think thats a good sign, but ive been escalating kino and i think ill freeze her out a few days a week

sounds like a good idea, make sure you dont cave and fail the freeze out tho. That or if she keeps calling and texting just give youself constant time restraints.

just be a solid confident flame and let her be the moth. Its all state of mind, if you believe or even entertain the idea that you are in a 'friend zone', or that there is even such a thing, then you are in it.

wow man, you sound like a pro. keep it up, it looks like you've got it under control

I am really like not talented at this at all, my brothers around me are like mystery method instructor status, first 2 eeks at school think my boy got 11 freshman, my games just picking up my best so far is still 2 hookups in 1 night, or 3 in a weekend a 4ths number, one night my phone was broke coulda got 5 numbers, im just on an exponential track, but yeah im going to start the freeze out i think in a week or so the only problem is she lives in florida during winter so i wont see her anyway so should i freeze her out before or after that? im thinking the sooner the better