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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:22 pm 
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I am new to the community and have been reading the material online by various PUA's in the community.
I have not been infield much but am hoping to really kick off my journey from AFC to PUA this weekend. I will be attending some local bars/clubs tonight and tomorrow night. Therefore I would hope to get a few numbers closes (a good start. Lol)

My questions are:
If in a club/bar situation and you kiss close a girl is that just in the moment fun to escalation towards a same night F close? (to be honest this is not why i joined the community really)

Is it true that if you Kiss a Girl in a club and then number close her (or vice versa) that it will be a flake? as she expects to be kissed by guys on a night out in a bar/club therefore she wont respond to any texts/ phone calls? (I have read some material online somewhere stating this) Is this correct?

Personally i am looking for relationship(s) to continue (rather than one night stands) would it be better to kino escalate then number close in a bar/club (i.e No kissing involved in bar/club environment) and wait until Day 2 or 3 for kissing?

Is same night F Close the same as a One Night Stand? (i.e will go no further)


Any Help on the above Questions would be much appreciated.




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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:41 pm 
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Before answering some of your questions I would like to make an important statement to you. Don't be dependent on the outcome. You are thinking miles ehead. First things first. Take small steps. Don't expect to f-close/k-close on you first night. If it happens, cool. If not, it's cool too because you had fun, and that's the reason you are doing all this.


Alright, as for flakes vs k-close/f-close I see a trend exactly in the opposite. A lot of girls don't want to be thought as a 'one night stand' so if you close them on the first night they will want to stick arond to back-rationalise al this. K-close is a bit the same to some extent. They 'never' kiss a guy on the first night. If they do so (and f-close too) then they become that much more invested in you and will look to get more out of that investment. Of course there are ONS where the girl is sexualy liberated and has no problems with herself for just having a fun night. Don't expect much in the long term with those, but do expet great sex.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:58 pm 
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" Before answering some of your questions I would like to make an important statement to you. Don't be dependent on the outcome. You are thinking miles ehead. First things first. Take small steps. Don't expect to f-close/k-close on you first night. If it happens, cool. If not, it's cool too because you had fun, and that's the reason you are doing all this. "

Spot on. couldn't have said it better myself.

Have fun first, meet women second :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:59 pm 
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1) if you kiss her, you should try to escalate towards a F close...if she is a high value girl and you would like to be in a relationship with her, take a step back.

2) this can happen. it depends on your game - if there is no connection between you and the girl except the kissing, you probably won't call you.

3) Yes, I would recommend this if you really like her.

4) If you have a same night F club, it doesn't have to be a one night stand - you want to have several night stands, don't you? ;-)

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