Hi Guys--i think i have a problem--ive come across this nonsense in the past--maybe its just an Irish thing donno---heres it is anyway--hot girl usually working in a shop is all friendly towards me first couple of times you go in there---then suddenly when Ive just about worked up the courage to ask her out or even develop a friendship or rappor by having a conversation---she suddenly stops smiling, saying Hi, or even answering me when I speak ,next she starts giving me these dirty looks as if Ive broke into her house robbed,raped and killed her family---or else looks everywhere but at me pretending not to see me and the more I try to be friendly and regain ground the more she treats me as a creep and for a finish with the cold shoulder SPAM I begin to think I AM one and it really smashes any self confidence i have built up---whats the answer is it to fight fire with fire and start twisting my head up my ass pretending not to see her-,dont ever go into the shop again ????

Please help me out guys--im really into this one and she was good person before she started this crap --why do they have to do everything so God damned weird--or is she just plain not interested and i should just lick my wounds and get lost

Please someone help me

Hey there,

its not an Irish thing.. thats for a start.

now, firstly thing you have to remember - she is at her place of work, so she had no exit, if she treats you badly she could be disiplined by her boss, and she is at work!! no one likes being at work - least of all in a shop.. ie. Shes vunrable

secondly, how much have you talked with her?? anything above fluff talk??
She might see you as the shady guy who keeps coming into the shop, buying the odd thing and leaving.. if its repetitve enough for her to be staring daggers at you - then it seems almost borderline obsessive..

just keep your distance for a little while and do some sarging elsewhere to get over this one-itis hiccup and some more confidence with cold approaching women.

Illusionist

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Went in there after a rugby game once and told her the score--said it was a boring game and the play was terrible---she made a comment ''ah if it was women you were looking at ye wouldnt find it boring''---everything was pretty much fluff talk

didnt know how to take that so i just gave her some sort of neutral noncommittal/disinterested answer
---another thinh she used to do was--i used to go in and buy coffee at a machine aprox 10 meeters in front of her at the till she was working on--she would always move out of eyesight and deliberately cough to let her friend who was working about 15 meters to her left at a deli counter know that elvis here had entered the building--and im not being paranoid it was a very forced cough--dont know whether i was meant to hear it or not but i always pretended not to notice---thing is i dont really go in there that much--she only works weekends--so most of the time she aint there and i have developed a fairly good platonic with her married replacement for the weekdays which is platonic and no agenda either way--she couldnt really class me as odd or intimidating though as ive always skipped going in there every second weekend and stayed out of there for 2 months then went in 2 weekends in a row then stayed out of there for 7 weeks---also i only do shop there when i need something and at times it is the only convienient place to go

when i went in there the last time she said hi and i didnt answer just said twenty benson and hedges--shes snubbed me plenty of times---I think your right thoug---maybe a complete and permanant exile from that place would do me good

I'm willing to bet money that I'm in a worse spot than you with Victoria. My advice is... leave her. Let her forget about your creepiness and start all over again. Here's what you do...

Apologize sincerely about whatever caused her to be mad at you. Do it SINCERELY. Mean it. Don't do it for the sake of just doing it. Mean it.

Leave her alone for awhile, game other chicks, keep getting calibrated. When the time comes, meet her again... but this time, bring two gorgeous babes with you whom you've picked-up. IT WILL AMPLIFY YOUR SOCIAL VALUE.

In my experience, the more you force things with a girl who's already creeped out, the more she'll get creeped out. It'll make you look very very needy. Believe me, I've been there.

Game other chicks, succeed with them, give this hot girl who's working in a shop some space (about 3-4 weeks), and then come back with social proof.

That's just my humble two cents.

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Thanks buddy--do you feel like sharing yer Victoria story im curious now--if u dont no ofence taken--thing is im already seeing 2 chicks but--this is goin to sound awful--shop is 8-9 where the other 2 are 4s if i were to bring them into shop it would bring me down more--God that sounds superficial

hah just wait outside door wait til she gets off to open and shut it for her. then follow her to her car and wave goodbye....... then get your car and follow her...home... lmao only kiddinggggg....

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Not sure what can be done about this, it is a pretty serious problem.

I recently had a HB describe me as "obsessed with her" to a friend (she thought I wasn't listening).
So I know the situation.

What seems to work best is a total freezeout. When you go in there, try and talk to any one but her. Reverse the usual PUA approach, make no eye contact, no conversation above the completely functional, treat her with no more social grace than a coffee machine. Sarge her friends if any other females are about. Social proof as another poster suggested is really strong here, eliminates any suggestion of obsessiveness or neediness, but for obvious reasons may not be an option for you.
In my case she eventually snapped and started trying to make conversation and referred to my coldness. I told her to f*** off. I wasn't really trying any angle here I was just insulted by what she said to her friend.

Weirdly enough, this actually seemed to get her interest back. Women are screwed up.

Well when you think about it is logical

If she is getting her kicks telling her buddys that a guy is obsessed with her and only comming in to see her--tis a bit of a knock down when eventually the friends start poking fun at her

''oh yeah hes really into you all right, comes in once a month,doesnt look at you,goes to another till to be served if there is one available,barely speaks to you unless he has too'' GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE.

ha thats so true flame calling ppl fake and plastic does wonders

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What way do they usually react to being called those things