So I was lucky enough to get a private elevator ride down with the hottest girl I've seen in my school (it has about 40,000 students). She's my kinda girl too, sooooooo.... I don't want to fuck it up. No risky shit please.

We talked, had a good conversation for about 5 minutes. I'll see her on Tuesday and Thursday in class. I want to at least get her into my frat for a party or better get her on a date. Where should I start with her and do you have any pointers for the next move?

BTW, I have a couple things I can talk to her about. We took a test together recently, she wants to join a sorority, and we had a project due recently. Any one of those things could be talked about and transitioned off of.

Thanks...

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

Well...
If she is an "11" you might want to have the negs ready ...
Never compliment her ...
Idk.. just be the cocky and funny guy thats different from everyone else.

Ok, thanks. To be honest, I have trouble with negs. It's hard to determine just what the "offensive" line is with girls. Some girls get offended if you tell them that you think she should have wore a red dress rather than black for instance. So, unless I spontaneously find an appropriate neg I try not to use them, they're too risky. From experience, girls usually would rather be told their #1 (even if they already know it) than be told they have an imperfection.

Ya, I'll be top shit when I talk to her. And yes, she is an 11, she basically looks like she was genetically engineered; as David Guetta would say, "she's nothing like the girls you've seen before". If she's not wealthy, she sure as hell likes to make that impression (pearl ear rings, casual scarf, no joke -plastic surgery, etc..). And she is shy, believe it or not; I was surprised by this when I was talking to her but I think it can work to my advantage because I'm not a real "in your face" kinda guy. IDK if that helps more.

I'm thinking about just talking to her about the test after class on Tuesday, then asking her if she wants to study together for the next test which is coming up this Thursday. If I get a "yes" to that should I go for the breakfast that same day (we get outta class at 9:15), if I get a "no" should I ask for breakfast as plan B or should I just let it go for the time being (I dont really want to let her go). Or should I just ask for breakfast first and then, yes or no, ask for studying?

Thanks for the responses, much appreciated....

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

stick with your own responce mate it's for the best.

and if she's already in your class, you could turn back or fool around and check if she's genuinely interested.

You need to constantly hold yourself as the thing she thinks about, as a HB 11, she may have a ton of guys which you'll be competin against. So kinda think of it that way but obvo don't mess up.

update the thread with the progress mate, i'd be happy to read bout it.

OK bro, tomorrow's d-day so we'll see what's up. Fuck, ok, I'm good, lets do it...

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

First thing you need to do is knock her down that pedestal you put her on. It's not helping you and it's not helping her. She's just your average girl.

Good luck!

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THREAD UPDATE:

I was able to sit next to her in class today. She's a nice girl, but it seems like she has a stick rammed three feet up her ass. That's cool, she's not a bitch but she is pretentious. She laughs but only like a murmur when I joked with her in class; that is partly probably because she does seem shy.

The point is I DID get a study session with her (and her number of course) Wednesday night in her room... I'm pretty happy about that. She definitely was happy that I ask her if she wanted me to help her with her test, I just need to make sure this doesn't end there.

I'll help her with the test review (and hopefully teach her another thing or two) Wednesday night and during that I'll ask her if she wants to grab breakfast after the test which is the next day. I could has ask her today but it didn't feel appropriate, I already got her on the line and I don't want to tug too hard.

Again, thanks for the advice. Normally I wouldn't be so hard up for advice but I want this one to work, and I'll take it all. Is asking her for breakfast after the test a good move while we review?

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

insult the crap outta her and u'll have her on top. gluck

yeah, excellent idea. and nice on on that 'revision' session, really be confident when you teach stuff, remember the alphaness.

use the breakfast thing maybe as an excuse to re-run through what she didn't get in the test if she's quite academic. If not then just be smooth bout the breakfast, maybe something to eat as you'll be free or something.
But when you do ask, do not sound desperate, AT ALL. IF she says she can't or if she's busy then i dunno, I haven't learned to confront the 'i'm busy' crap.
Or be like, 'yeah i understand you got __neg tease__ or somethin.'

If she's pretentious, then it's kinda hard. Cause girls like that are usually quite popular but a complete bitch to move up with, as in relationship wise.
Try to maybe mix in with her friends if she invites you out, or you TELL her to. Not that bluntly but you know, imply you'd 'help/ accompany' etc.

This will really depend how the night goes,
good luck bro.

OK, ya, I'll definitively be alpha when I'm helping her; she already knows I did well on the last two tests so that will help. I'm hoping that we don't focus too much on the studying and more on each other, I'll try to gear it towards us while still helping her.

I don't know that she's really academic, and honestly the last thing I want is for us to talk about the test. I want to know about her and for her to know about me, and of course make further plans. When and if she goes to breakfast with me I'll say at most two sentences about the test before transitioning into more personal/fun stuff.

If she makes an excuse it will be hard for me to know whether she is telling the truth or not, I know she is very busy so I can't automatically think she is BSing me. Sooo, if she denies for whatever reason the breakfast then I'll have a second day ready so Ill say, "Ok, we'll let's grab lunch on Friday. What time would be good for you?" It allows her to make a time good for her and it is impossible for her to say "no" without telling a huge lie or just telling the truth. I hate having to play defense because it's so pathetic, but I also don't like to be held by leash.

I'm not sure if she's really popular. I mean I go to Indiana University so most people are not regarded as "popular" like in high school. There are a load of babes so it's not like one has dominance. It's all IMO that she is an 11, you may think she is a 7 or 8 I wouldn't know. Anyway, I'll invite her and her friends sometime to my frat, that's for later though; I want this girl for myself

Thanks.

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so whatever floats your boat.
I understand what you mean by the defence/ pathetic but also the leash thing.. tricky.

Don't get me wrong, but if she's genuinely interest, i mean as in how you can judge your relationship with her from HER perspective, if she did decline, she'd offer up another date.
I really have no clue from here, there are so many variables etc.

just update when you get somethin goin,
and you're welcome. it's why we come here right?

THREAD UPDATE:

OK, so we did our little study session together. It went pretty well, I was able to ask her some questions and we had some decent conversation. I did fuck up a couple times by swearing (which I don't think she liked) and by, OMG im an idiot, bringing up a previous girlfriend. It got a little slow after about an hour and half, I waited for her to call it off and she did about 2 hours in.

Anyway, at the end I asked her for lunch on Friday. This is how it went:

Me: "You want to grab lunch on Friday?"

Her: "My parents are coming into town this weekend."

Me: Rolled my eyes and said "O, come on." (not begging, but like dont BS me)

Her: giggles and says "What?" (so that may mean she really isn't BSing. IDK)

Me: "OK, what about breakfast?"

Her: "Morning classes."

Her again: "Contact me after the football game (she's a dancer for the games and this is the last one, it's next weekend)"

Me: "Alright, I'll let ya know."

(ironically too, the game is the same weekend before everyone leaves for thanksgiving)

So, what do I do from here? I don't feel like I'm dead in the water but I am a little annoyed. I will continue to talk to her in class but I want to at least hang out before we come back from thanksgiving break!

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

This sounds like oneitis. What do you think?

What's wrong with thinking one girl has something special?

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"I have only one counsel for you - be master."

You have way too much invested in this one girl and it's starting to show in your conversations with her. She probably feels it too - especially if you start to give it off in your BL.

Also, don't ask when she's free. Tell her a time YOU are free. You are supposed to be the busy one with valuable time.

Slein