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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:59 pm 
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  I've met this girl(hb8) online and took her out. We went to a nice
lounge, had couple of drinks and a nice conversation. Ever since I
picked her up at her place she wouldn't shut up about her job. Luckily
I could contribute to the conversation quite well as I have some
knowledge in what she was talking about - which was a pelasant
surprised to her. In general I don't need to run routines to keep the
conversation flowing - I am naturally good at that.
 After 2nd martini I decided that it's time to escalate and increase
kino. I have been slightly kinoing her before - so there was some
foundation. I did palm reading routine and kino went up.
 After 3rd martini I had my arm around her, I was leaning back
against the wall while both of us are sitting down. Then she started
complimenting me on my looks. I responded couple of time in a cute way
and then moved in for the kiss. We kissed, but it was a very
conservative kiss - no toung. We hanged out there for a little while
and then bounced to a nice desert place near by. Talked more, she
seemed to like the place. She then proceeded to tell me that sheis
having a great time and so on. I kept trying to be cool about it and
responded with reasonable compliments.
 Then I drove her home, we kissed again very conservatively and she
suggested to "do it again" to which I agreed.

   Next day I called her and offered to hang out again, to which she
said that she needs to see how her day goes and she will call me later
and let me know. She never did. That night I went online and noticed
that she is online as well - I didn't contact her in any way - decided
to play it cool.
  Today is a second day since our first date - she still didn't text
nor call me.

  So first of all my question basically is: wtf is going on? :) She
seemed to be so into me, I thought I played a solid game  (nice convo,
qualification, kino, k-close) and we overall had a really good time.
Given it was a first date I think it was A OKAY to say the least.
    Secondly: what do I do now? I thought maybe keep it cool for a
day or two and then text or call her to just shoot shit. Then, (if
that doesn't hook), withdraw for a day again and get back to her with
some plans for the weekend - ask her out basically. If she denies -
close her file or put her on a back log.

   While on a date she did mention though that she might go on
another date with some guy tomorrow(relative to the day of the date).
So I am thinking maybe this guy just capitalized on the fact that he
was the last one in the queue and she emotionally cooled down towards
me?

   Any suggestions/comments are appreciated.[quote][/quote]


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:58 pm 
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One thing to keep in mind: You can do everything right and still not succeed...There is a margin of error! Plus, you may have escalated too quickly without building too much attraction...She knows she has you, so shes going to see what this next guy has to offer...

Put yourself in her shoes, If you were with a girl and kissing THAT easily with a date arranged for the next day, you could easily move on to the next one....


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:16 am 
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One thing to keep in mind: You can do everything right and still not succeed...There is a margin of error
true, there is a margin for error and I personally look at online dating as well as any other dating on early stages as a numbers game - where you do everything possible to increase the probability of success but it will never be 100%.
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Plus, you may have escalated too quickly without building too much attraction...
I think it was alright. As I said - we were sitting there, my arm was around her, kino was going on for a while at that point and she was telling me how attracted she is to me. If anything - NOT GOING for the kiss in this position would be a DLV and a sign of insecurity. But thats just my opinion.
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She knows she has you, so shes going to see what this next guy has to offer...
You may be right here - she might think she has me, and this is why I am withdrawing now, - to destroy this illusion. Cat string theory :) I also do not rule out the possibility that the other guy just blew her mind - I am awesome (and shy) but there is always one who is a little bit better :)

Will see how it works out. I learned how to not develop a one-itis on a first date so at this point I have more of scientific interest in the situation, and, therefore, wish to dissect it here :)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:27 am 
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One other thing to add that I just thought of involves negs....One school of thought is to drop the negs immediately once you've k-closed, and certainly F-closed...to varying degrees, this works, however with an HB, you need to constantly DHV that you're that ALPHA MALE....For example, a rockstar/"bad-boy" that is in control is ALWAYS in control and negs the girl just to remind her that he is able to get with any girl....Keep the game in control at all times...


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