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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:59 am 
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Hey Adam, I am a college student and I noticed that I'm not as social as I thought I was. I'm not really shy or nervous around people in general, but I don't really say much and I don't talk that much unless I really really have to. I also noticed that most of my conversations tend to be very dull to both guys and girls.

So are there any drills, or tips that you can recommend me to develop my social skills and to help me become funnier, more humorous and be a better flirt with girls?


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Greetings Adam. Good to know you're still gracing us with your knowledge.

I just screwed up with this girl. I won't lie, I'm hurt. I'm pondering how/if I should LJBF her considering the only way I can contact her now is through sms and Facebook, although she might not respond.

But looking back at our interaction I noticed that she responded well to disqualifiers and negs, which made her qualify and DHV herself. Throughout that whole time, she was into me and I kino'd her to the point where I was pretty much fondling her butt, but I didn't go further because I really wasn't interested in her and only began consciously gaming her in the last few weeks out of the five months I've known her in college (I'm graduating next week). It was really thanks to following your formula I suppose. Only just last weekend, I had been smsing her non-stop for 3 days as she was keen to talk to me. Now she's hardly replying and maybe even stopped.

I seem to be stuck. I didn't kiss her even though I thought things were going well before because I thought I had to show interest after qualification. Where things got bad was when I "rewarded" her with SOIs after she qualified herself. Apparently this pushed her away and now she's not attracted to me anymore. I've pinpointed my SOIs to be the start of my problems so I'm seriously considering not using SOIs anymore as it verbalised my attraction and caused me to get invested and act AFC when she did not react.

What struck me is that before verbalising how "impressed" I was, I was able to kino escalate her to the point where she didn't mind me touching her on her back, legs, butt and face because I'm assuming she did not think I was interested. I'm convinced I could've kissed her. But after smsing something like "Wow I like mature people. They're easy to talk to" when I qualified her based on maturity, she reacted negatively by not replying. And this was repeated.

So should I have discarded SOIs and rewarded her with escalating kino instead? Would it have led to a kiss and more? Should I LJBF her now?

She's not a knockout but she definitely rates as a 7.5-8 for me and whenever she posts updates on her facebook status, about 5-10 AFCs will leave comments immediately. She's also has a non-caring attitude which I guess counts as a hot girl mentality which means she acts differently from other girls so I'm not sure if what happened here is applicable to all my interactions. I'm led to believe that my negging + other qualities was what attracted her, but after I verbalised interest, she categorised me under "Friend".

Thanks Adam. I hope you find the time for this.


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Oh one more thing Adam. This one's short I promise.

How do you LJBF a girl immediately? I'm seriously thinking about doing that to all girls I know, then building attraction later. Also, is it fine to LJBF a girl after she put me in the friendzone? I've tried this on 2 girls who LJBF'd me and were acting cold, by telling them "Make no mistake, I wasn't interested in you to begin with" (disqualifying them/myself), and both responded really well. In fact I reckon I might be able to build attraction and escalate while I'm friends with them. This "being friends" thing is really starting to sound useful. It's also sounding like an illusion.


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I sent you this on facebook but you told me to post it here lolz.

This really attractive girl that I originally friend zoned and put in my social circle is really starting to catch my interest. How do I turn it from friendship to more than that??

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Hey Adam,
I've been talking to this girl in one of my classes for a while now, shes a HB9.5 and we get along really well together. We text each other all the time in like a playful bantering way and she always calls/texts when shes drunk. She told me she feels so comfortable around me and we flirt alot. One day i asked her whats the longest relationship shes ever been in and she said 5 years, then later that night she said something like "i feel like you had to know that." But i didnt really know what that meant, she also asked me if Im a relationship guy or a hookup guy and i told her it depends on the girl. When it was my bday she left all her friends to come meet up with me and ended up sleeping in my bed but nothing happened. the other night i told her that i felt like i was starting to like her and she gave me the "just got out of a long relationship" speech and said we should just be friends for now and that in order to be in a relationship with someone shed have to know them for atleast 6 months. But she still texts me all the time, ive been making myself less available as of late but to be honest the thought of her has been keeping my up at night. Any advice on how i should proceed? Thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:03 am 
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You ve sead to me to feel free to repost you here...Well here I am...
Look im having problems with situational openers....I really dont know how to use them and how to practice them...Im using few openers for a month now...And im sick of them....HELP....
Hey Matija,

Man, situational openers are the BEST. They are my favorite because you can have fun with them. It is also something we do in every day life to those around us so they come off as most natural.

A situational opener is where you observe a situation/event going on around you and make a comment about it to the person next to you. Here are a few examples:

"Have you noticed how they're playing more Michael Jackson music at the clubs now that he died?" (of course use this if a MJ song comes on)
"It is SO cold in here, aren't you freezing??"
"Oh. My. Look at that guy dancing over there. He might have been a liiiittle overserved tonight."

The idea is just to verbally make note of something and roll with it. Transition on from there and you're good to go!

Give it a try and be creative!

Adam


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Hi Adam
You said when you first started out, you practiced 24/7, 7 days a week for 3 months. Could you describe the actual process of what you did a bit more? Was your practice emphasized more towards day game or night game? And what type of venue(s) would you sarge at (mall, club, bar, street, etc.)? For those 7 or so hours, did you just go to one venue and sarge (for example, a mall), go to several different venues and sarge, or just go about your day normally and sarge as the day went? Also, did you only approach girls you found attractive or did you approach anyone - ugly or hot? I'd would love to hear what you did so I can use that as a loose template.

Thank you so much!!!


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Sorry, I forgot to ask whether or not you started off with routines and what you recommend guys starting off use.

Sorry for asking such a mouthful!


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so i'll admit that this is a bit balsy but here it goes...... i am a 23 y/o afc w/ an extra challenge, i was born with a dissablity. my situation is quite mild and i am completely cogently capable with an above average IQ. in fact, the only way anyone would know i have issues is that i walk funny, w/ slightly bent knees and a noticeable limp.
i am having trouble battling the stigma with my situation and women seem quite surprised when i ask them out. i make friends no problem but they seemed shocked if i want something more.

my question is three fold:
1. do you think that this situation makes my goal impossible/ do pua tactics not apply because i walk funny?
2. how can i help women see past my situation and take me seriously?
3. do any of you know someone who has also faced challanges and has been successful with females?

keep in mind that i AM A NORMAL PERSON and am not looking for pity, so be completly honest whatever your response


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Hey Adam
Great PUA man i base alot of my style of talking off of what u teach its good stuff i think it is deff the best

anyways i hav a question, i am 17 years old, read The Game like begining of last year. b4 that i was alright with girls, now i skyrocketed. 16 lays in one year, b4 that only 1.

i feel that i am pretty natural at this stuff but i want to no if there is any advanced bootcamps for ppl more my age? i dont mind if i went to a seminar with older gents but if there was one more my age like 18 range that would be better ha..less awkward cause im a little small and wut not

oh by the way it would be like a dream to go out and sarge with u haha i would love to learn some more advanced stuff. il bring 12 hot girls promise haha

mR.e

Hey mR.E,

Cheers for the message man. Awesome to hear that you have been doing well and getting success. To be completely honest, it sounds like you might not even need a bootcamp. For the most part, bootcamps are there to help jump start your game and give you an overview of game in one weekend. If you are going out there and pushing yourself and getting great results then just keep going. You'll learn more by actual life experience than anything else.

It's good that you're getting a hold of this when you're young. Most seminars do have younger guys... On our courses specifically we always have a few 18-20 yr olds there. You're not alone in this mate!

Keep on sarging and keep on learning. It is the best and fastest way to get good.


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Hi mate, basically i got one itis told her i liked her her reply was " if you had said a week ealier things would have been different..but im meeting someone now and im not the kind of person to go behind peoples back" literally could you give me a tried and tested method of turning this round so she chases me. the appreciation would literally be huge haha! ta
Hey Pube,

Man, this is a difficult one. I really can't give too much advice on this without knowing the full situation... A hundred different factors could have happened to make her want to move on. The best thing to do is go over what happened, figure out where in the process it went wrong (did you wait too long... why did you wait too long... etc..), analyze that and move on to the next one and not duplicate the same mistake. Don't make the same mistake twice.

Also, get an abundance of women so that you're not too hung up on one.


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Hey Adam keep up the good work :)

I only have 2 questions:

1. Let's say you befriended a few girls, and they become a part of your social circle, but now you want to hook up with one of them or some of them. From your point of view what is the easiest way to break out of the "friend zone" that you created and escalate with one of the girls, without making it seem weird?
In your PUA Diaries you said that you befriend the "Princesses" and you ended up sleeping with a few of them, same thing how did you break out of the friend zone, that you yourself created.....
I probably know that you are going to say "Break rapport so you will create attraction" but I can not do because I'm a really C&F/Tease + Touchy + Sexual in nature guy, with everyone I befriend, so I'm already breaking rapport by being me, and I feel if I escalate further to a close it will be weird because I feel that the attraction that I cause just by being me is blending with comfort...What is your thought on this?

2. I was at a party last night and there were this 2 girls, I liked one of them so I decided to make her my target for the night. Of course instead of trying to pick her up, I was being social and basically befriending everyone all night. By the end of the night I started escalating with her more, presuming attraction after all the social proof I created.
Now here comes the problem, while I was escalating, she told me like 2 times that her friend who she was with "liked me" "wanted me" etc. But after saying that she still didn't stop my escalation.
Like I understand why her friend was attracted to me, but now I'm really interested, what she said meant? Like was it just a shit test to see how I react or was she just reasoning out loud with herself, telling herself that "I told the guy you liked him but he likes me more, but I still told him", or was that even a hint for a 3some? o.O
I also didn't take it as a "rejection" I saw all her IOI very clearly...
How would you react and take something like that?
First time I remember just saying "No" and keep escalating, and the second time I just told her straight up that my target was my type, and I described herself.
Was this the right move?
ps: I'm also a really touchy guy so without even thinking about it, I was kind of showing IOIs to my friend's target, is that okay to do, or should you limit the touching even if the target doesn't say something like: "my friend likes you"

Thanks Adam

V3nu
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Hey V3nu,

This is actually a really solid question. Here goes:
1.Yes, you do know what I'm going to say and it IS break rapport. That is the only way to break out of the friend zone. Now you being a naturally teasing guy, yes your natural breaks in rapport can be part of the comfort phase. So this means you need to raise the bar in terms of breaking rapport. For example, getting sexual when they're not expecting it is a definite break in rapport. It is high risk, but high risk means high reward. One big thing you have to realize when breaking out of the friend zone is that you might lose them as a friend and you have to be willing to do so.
2.This is a very common situation. Especially if you are playing social proof right, which it sounds like you are, the friends will end up liking you. There are a number of reasons why she felt the need to tell you that her friend liked you... Her friend probably told her and she felt bad getting the attention , maybe she was uncertain at first and wanted to diffuse the interaction off of her.... Whatever the reason, the main routes to take is to keep with the one you want or go for the easy one. I say always go for the one you actually want, which is what it sounds like you did.


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Adam,

First, thanks for all the help you're providing. Your webite (attractionexplained) has been incredibly useful. The fact you explain why something needs to be done and then go into the "hows" makes everything so much easier to understand.

I'm only just starting out, so I apologise if you've already answered my question, or something like it.

I opened a set last night in which I felt I was doing really well. I spent a lot of time talking to this girl, making her qualify herself, doing kino escalation etc. It got to a point were we both felt very comfortable. She then told me that she had a boyfirend but was going to break up with him as she'd found out he'd been cheating. (long story short) Her mates wanted to move to a different area of the club, so I got her number and said I'd text her later that night.

When I texted, she replied really bluntly that she'd already left the club.

My quesiton is: what could I have done to better close the set and what wud be the best way to try and take it forward now?

JC

Hey JCCarter,

Cheers for the message dude! Glad that my material can be of help to you. And awesome that you're getting that in-field practice in!

The best way to handle this situation is to go with the girl and the friends to the different area of the club. If you have used social proof correctly and got in with all of the friends then it would not be weird at all for you to join them and continue the party. Or, if you did everything correctly, you would be able to tell the friends that you plan on keeping her with you for a little bit longer and you will make sure you return her safely in a few minutes. This will buy you some extra time to stay in isolation, really solidify the close, and potentially even bounce with them to the next venue.

Another method is to text her as soon as she leaves you so that you can have your own private text coversation while the rest of the club bumping around you. You can really escalate things further like that and then plan to meet up before the night is over. The best way to take it forward from now would be to drop her a funny text asking a question. If she responds then continue gaming and get a meet up. If she doesn't then the close wasn't solid, so move on to the next.


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Heya man,

Thanks for all the advices, bro. U've motivated me to continue my quest.
Cheers for you!

Been quite long in the community with few failures and few success, I'm starting to getting a good grasp on how to game properly, yet sometimes I still get the approach anxiety and millions of excuses to not approach. E.g I can't meet girls in mall, I can't this this etc etc and etc. But better things are, I know if I don't do this right, I got a sense that tells me "this isn't right". But my problems are:

1. When I'm in set and I sense that things doesn't go "right", I can feel it. Whether it's incongruencey, emotional overreaching, etc etc. But often times, I don't know how to fix it. How to solve this? Most of the times, it's incongruency and emotional overreaching or trying too hard to fit in.

And sometimes I'm confused when to go the comfort and reduce the qualification a little bit. And how if she doesn't pass our standard a.k.a her answer isn't satisfying but I love her look?

2. Game works really different here. Meeting girls anywhere by being direct isn't a choice, and talking to a girl you fancy in a mall isn't a choice. It works in social circle game like wonder though. Nobody does qualification here. ;) But,how does game work in a country like this? Or it's just an excuse for me to not approach?

3. One of the girl I approach now (she's one of the cutest girl I've ever met) has just got out from a relationship, how do I get in?

4. When I'm not "in state", you told me that I can always game and go for the "low energy game" by building comfort and genuine deep connection with the person. How to make this kind of game works? Because when I'm not in state, I could say that my attraction game sucks. I'm way too scared to be put on the friend zone. Any advice,buddy??

Thank you for everything mate, sorry if I ask too much

Your best pal,
Steven ;)

Hey Desertfox565,

1.Things aren't always going to go “right” when you're in set. They will never be perfect ad just flow exactly how you want it to. You have to be OK with that and accept the situation in front of you and roll with it. I always say that game isn't like building blocks that you're putting together like a building. It's more like water... It is fluid and it isn't completely structured. That is the beauty of it. Start flowing with it.

2.Social circle game is a good thing. Saying that it doesn't work in a different country might be an excuse so you have to work around it. Cold approaches might not be culturally acceptable so work with what you have which is your social circle. Make sure that you are expanding your social circle to meet new people and hotter girls. Then continue gaming amongst it.

3.It's difficult to advise on what to do with girls coming out of relationships without knowing more background, such as how long you have been friends, what the friendship was like before and during her last relationship, why they broke up, etc. The best thing to do is be her friend, be the guy that she wants to turn to when things get tough. That type of deep rapport is killer, then you can make your move.

4.Being low energy is about building comfort and a deep connection, but you still have to break rapport. That's where the attraction spark comes from. And the friend zone is a good place to be, especially if you put them in it first. And then you can meet all of their other friends. ;)

Hope this helps mate!


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