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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:59 pm 
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tell me what you think!!

me: hey i got to leave in a sec but i was wondering if i can get your opinion on something

girl: sure, what is it?

me: what is it that women find most attractive about a man

girl: blah blah blah


do you think this is a good opener, or will the girl your opening think your bad with women and look down on you?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:24 pm 
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Pretty boring.

No offence.

I wouldn't want to sit there and listen to some girl say a bunch of things that we already know what girls find attractive in a man.
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I agree it isn't very original.

AND she could take it in two negative ways:

1) you really don't know what women find attractive in a man, that will surely turn her off. Confidence is key. You need to know what women find attractive, or at least pretend you do until you learn.

or;

2) you're trying to "win" over another girl and want her free advice since she's female.


Come up with something unique that she's never heard before, it'll impress her and instantly make her want to know more about you.


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alright guys thanks, the problem is most of the ones i know have already been used on the show, the pick up artist...i really need an original one, you guys know any good ones?


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I agree it isn't very original.

AND she could take it in two negative ways:

1) you really don't know what women find attractive in a man, that will surely turn her off. Confidence is key. You need to know what women find attractive, or at least pretend you do until you learn.

or;

2) you're trying to "win" over another girl and want her free advice since she's female.


Come up with something unique that she's never heard before, it'll impress her and instantly make her want to know more about you.
not bad rookie. I would further add that an opener like that seems very friendzone. Like mentioned earlier showing lack of drive and confidence. Of coarse if it opens the target you can off set that by using negs, some light kino and such, but then again its a "friend" opener. Once you switch gears she can freak and put up a shield.
Be ready for that.
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Search this part of this forum "approaching and opening", there's tons of good material.

Think of something you have a passion for in your life, and relate that to an opener. (leading to more conversation)


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'hey!, you in the blue top!'
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'yes, what was the name of the chicken from the old warner brothers cartoon?'

You dont have to be so serious about you opener. Anything works aslong as your making contact. The opener isnt all that important most times, its what you do in the next 2 minutes that you have to worry about.

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Search this part of this forum "approaching and opening", there's tons of good material.

Think of something you have a passion for in your life, and relate that to an opener. (leading to more conversation)
Yeah, just peruse the forum and enter a bunch of topics. After enough you'll be able to structure your own similarly and on the fly.

I was at rugby practice today and there's a few girls that practice with us sometimes. The one's kinda cute. It took me a little, but I came up with a good neg finally. I just went up to her and said, "I see you've been practicing your passing." This after she had just thrown a bad pass haha. It's that simple. Eventually you can come up with real-world stuff and you won't have to plan out an approach and remember lines.


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yeah def. cliche

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me: what is it that women find most attractive about a man

girl: blah blah blah
?
...Yawn.

Let's try something more along the line of

PUA:OMG.Did you just see what happened!
HB:What?
PUA:This bum,was following this girl around,trying to give her a rose he just picked from that bush over there!
HB:Blah Blah Blah.

Excitement always leads to one hell of a story.


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