I had a pretty depressing revelation today.

I've been into the game for a little bit over a month now. I joined the site on September 25th and I picked The Game by Style for the first time about a week earlier.

Today, I went to the gym after school with a buddy, then had to wait for a few hours in a coffee shop, alone, for my brother to finish his work out and then go home. So I was waiting in this coffeehouse, doing my homework and listening to Tyler Durden's Real Social Dynamics seminar on my iPod. I knew the girl at the cash, we'll call her Kate. My game felt a bit off, and it has been for the past couple weeks now, on and off, on and off. Anyway, so they were closing up, and she comes up to me:

Kate: Can you hear me? I'm gonna lock you in, we're closing, but you can stay if you want.
Sharp: Yeah, yeah, okay, thats fine.
Kate: (smiles) Alright...

Then I went back to work, like a total chode. I was sitting there, doing my stupid homework, listening to Tyler Durden talk about natural game and how to get women. I knew I wanted to talk to this girl, that I should try and game her somehow, but I just couldn't get the balls to do it. I didn't know what to say, how to open, or anything. Then I realized that I was alone with a hot girl in a closed and locked coffeehouse; what better opportunity could possibly present itself? So I finally convinced myself to approach, even though it was totally AFC, while she was cleaning up behind the counter:

Sharp: So you still work here?
Kate: Uhh... Yeah, I always have.
Sharp: Oh, really? Didn't know, I thought you quit or something.
Kate: No, I went to China for a few months, but came back.
Sharp: Oh, right.
Kate: So, what homework are you working on?
Sharp: Exercise science.
Kate: Your such a nerd! Wait, why are you here?
Sharp: I didn't just come into town to do homework, I was at the gym. Ha, wow I'm not that bad.
Kate: Oh, thank god. I thought you were just here to work.
Sharp: No, not at all, haha.

Then she went to the other room to let somebody out. God, did I ever mess up. There wasn't even a hint of game in that conversation. In the heat of the moment just forgot everything. On the way out I was kicking myself for not saying a line, or moving in, or attracting and building value, or anything.

Then it hit me. Hard. In this past month, nothing has changed. I still act the same around women, I haven't hooked up once (and I actually haven't hooked up since ninth grade, I'm in grade 12), there is no evidence of any success. And this was not a good feeling.

Maybe it takes much longer than this, but shouldn't I be seeing initial signs of success at least? What am I doing wrong?

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-Sharplin
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it's an inner game problem. meditate on that

Hey this is similar to what's been happening to me but I'm a junior, with virtually no past successes. I'd like to point out that I've been really into the game for the past 2 months with little real success. In the beginning of the year all I did was listen and watch game seminars etc. then I started to really go and socialize but I still feel that I hit a "sticky" point and I'm not making any forward progress.

YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM!!! WHAT YOU DID WAS PERFECT, IN FACT I GIVE YOU ALL THE CREDIT FOR EVEN APPROACHING!!!!

heres a link

im-a-newb-where-do-i-start-here-vt55071.html

but dont go there yet!!!

you must smile!!! be in character paractice! smiling all the time, when around people.

start by asking "can i see your hand" its small but its a start to kino... you can build from there "you have nice nails" " you have a cute smile"
while holding her hand talk about something else, if she feels uncomfortable let go.
you want to talk about yourself its indirect game, and how awesome you are, the things you do.. "i skate" i dj" etc

you want change heres the weapon..

this opener is my personal field tested material it has opened and got me laid, in fact this is the only opener i use, unless a girl has heard even so.. it doesnt matter cuz it does so much..

this opener has preselection all over it and thats the secret to stab preselection!!

"hey can i ask you something real quick (ftc)
i need a cute girls opinion (ioi)
"would you get back with an x if they promise to change, my x is so jelous" (preselection)

thats it!!!!!! you will get a girl with this... after she starts talking, go on about how your depressed cuz you just want a girl that likes to chill but she hates that, and shes jelous cuz one time your x was stalking you and you hate girls that are controlling.. and she will agree.

keep this up until the bit goes stail then ask for her number, and say you just need a girl to ask opinions about you and your x..

after that leave this bit alone, on the phone bring it up, then leave it alone and move on to the next question..

"so your cute
what happen with your last relationship"

then she will tell you and what ever she says about the guy say that your x does the same thing.

this is a build relationship opener!!!!!!!! i warn you it works

i have one more weapon when your ready im

A MASTER PICK UP ARTIST
IM DOG YOUI!!!!!!!!!

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It sounds like to me, you expect to see a rather quick change over a one month period. It never works like that. When you want to be good at something, you always have to practice for it. I notice what you did wrong, you did got up and approach her you did good on that. Were you fail at is you didn't utilize any of the material you listening to like couple minutes ago before you approach her. You have to practice and use what you've learned plus don't expect such a drastic change in such a short period.

Listen man im new to the venusian arts too. I didnt hook up with a girl until i was in 12th grade. I was shy, so shy. Im now 23 going on 24 and success just found me because I tried. Its all about trying even if its sloppy . Back then I had no game, not like the real game we are learning now. Back then I was just try hard and it paid off SOMETIMES. But they were just flakes. From your field report I believe you did a great job just bc you did try. Everything will fall into place it always does, but its up to you to try. I am going through a similar situation because Ive had a gf for the past 5 years, Im not used to interacting with starngers but in order for the game to work you MUST try and try and try. You learn from your mistakes, the interaction with this girl was practice. Dont give up my freind.

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Only you control your life, life is short, never regret your past, work hard for your toward future goals...

Sharplin You can't expect to be a wiz at PUA in the short time you been at it. There are NO instant results in PUA. Its going to take time to get better at PUA. And you know what you are going to mess up a lot at first. But the more you do it and the more you get out there the better off you are. Learn from your mistakes and move forward. Pretty soon you will see change. But give it time and don't rush things.

I'm doing the stylelife challenge now. Its taken me out of my comfort zone and made me more confident already (I'm only on day 3). Once I complete it I dont expect to be a MPUA, I never want to be a MPUA, I'm actually aiming to be good with women by this time next year.

Realistic goals in all aspects of life are very important, e.g. I'm 13st with 18% body fat SPAM, is it realistic for me to be 18st with 10% bodyfat by June 2010? No. I've set my goal as 13st8lbs at 12% bodyfat and if I diet and train correctly I will achieve it.

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'You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.'

How many girls have you approached this month?

Your progress is based on your experince. You can read up all you want and memorize all you want but without actual experince you will no get anywhere.

It's all about experince, and it doesn't matter how you closed it, or how many things you've followed, experince is exerpince.

Don't be hard on yourself, you made yourself approach altough you had nothing prepared and you did so, it's a start. Now for next time you know what you should be focusing on. Now try to approach 10 girls a night, 4 nights in a month, and see what you're at in a month or two.

You all bring up really good suggestions and pointers, thanks for your guidance. It really bothers me that I am not good at this yet, but I think the most of you are right in that I need experience before I can get better... I was thinking that just reading and listening to PUA seminars would make me better, but I need a game plan and I need to try something. Use the material, I mean.
Heres my game plan from now on:

Find and use three openers, mid game routines, and closes.
Do 5 approaches per week.
Because I am in a school situation, I know and am close friends with most of the people that I try to game. I will try to make 3 of these approaches to girls I have never met, and the other two can be to girls I know.

What do you guys think?

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-Sharplin
My journal:
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Do the stylelife challenge.
It helps alot. really!

I would do it, but I'm not 18 (no credit card) and I couldn't afford 20$ a week.

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-Sharplin
My journal:
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Oh, come on! Approach -is- a success at that stage!

Shrug it off. You learn by trial and error.

As someone stated before, this is an inner game issue. Work on that and it'll be smooth sailing, bro!

I put in Bold and Italics what you should have said, your problem is you are keeping everything professional, neg her, and most importantly the responses I gave ya put the Idea of you two together in her mind

If you want to really see a change, DO NOT learn routines

I want you to make a list of all your good qualities, forget bad ones, they dont matter...now you have a list of things a girl wants that you have, now all you have to do is make her realize she wants you

The only thing you should fake is confidence, that is ALL you need, and real confidence will follow that

You dont need a game or gimmicks
you need to unlock your potential

Aaaah, man! You have been reading stuff for a little over 1 month and you have been "practicing?" for about 1 month. It all depends on how much time you spend on real life experience training. If this was your first "real" approach then it went just fine. It is no shame in not using material. You are probably better off just talking and getting to feel the vibe at this stage than to repeat some ridiculus story that doesnt fit with you or the situation.

Nothing has changed? No not true, you realized that nothing has changed which means that you see things from a different perspective. You have changed your outlook on life and that is worth more than learning routines by heart!

Ezo