LMR is a bitch, anything besides the freeze out I can use to get that lay. My freeze outs are not working

I havnt tried but i heard form AFc Adam-

tell the girl the whole night whenever you move her ect. and when your going throw forplay whenerver she looks at you just go 'its ok just turust me'.

Club

PUA - Lets go and sit down.

Girl - Im with my friends

PUA - Its ok, Trust me

Bed room

Girl - I cant sleep with you.

PUA - Its ok, trust me. (Keep it sincere)

Next

Girl - No stop

PUA - Im going to count down from 5-0 and you tell me to stop.(Keep it sexy, and playful)

Good tip is to always make sure that you are leading her, and to give her reasons for compliance.

PUA - Lets sit down..... My legs hurt/So we can get conformable/Less noisy
It really can be anything, its not what you say is the fact that you justifying it!

Hope was a help

Young PUA

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If a girl very directly says "No stop", whatever you do, you must keep in mind that you've GOT TO IMMEDIATELY STOP. That doesn't mean that you can't keep on verbally gaming, but immediately stop accelerating the kino until she gives you the green light again.

There are 5 ways of solving LMR
Don’t logically engage a girl during LMR
Don’t take it personally.

7 hours
· By waiting 7 hours, you have demonstrated that you are not going to leave after sex.
We should stop
· What happens when the woman says [We should stop]
· You respond with “I know, we shouldn’t be doing this, we should stop”, and then you keep going.
· Remember, she didn’t say stop, she said we should stop.
· This might be reworded as [I don’t usually do this], in which case you respond with “I know, me neither, but everything we’re doing is so right.”
· Also might be said as [We’re not having sex tonight]. “Oh my god, I’m so glad you said that. I’m not in the headspace to do this right now. Don’t get me wrong, obviously we’re attracted to each other, but I just want to come and have a place to chill. It’s like tonight, before I came over, I purposely didn’t shave my face ‘cuz I usually don’t feel too sexy when I’m unshaven, and I figured I really wasn’t in the space where I wanted to have sex… here feel my face… see how it’s unshaven? You’ve done this before, like when you don’t shave your legs, and you did that purposely ‘cuz you didn’t want to have sex. Here let’s see your legs… oh, you did shave? See, what were you thinking? Let’s just hang out.
Freeze Out
· A freeze out is just another takeaway, except used specifically for LMR
· If she wants to stop, you respond very calmly with “I understand… no worries” as if she just turned off your sex drive. Then you get up, turn on the lights, blow out the candles, and do something normal, like check your e-mail, or watch tv. Don’t say anything.
· When she says she want to stop, she just means she doesn’t want to have sex, but she’s still enjoying making out with you.
· There will usually be 3 freeze outs: When trying to remove her bra, pants and panties.
· Freeze outs vary in length from 3 to 15 minutes
o Start with 3 minutes, next will be 10, than 15.
· After the freeze out, tell her to remove the item that she just LMR’ed. Proceed making out, then pause and re-set up the setting (lights, candles, etc)
You’ve hijacked my brain
· “Baby, there is absolutely no worry, we don’t have to have sex today. You’ve hijacked my brain. I’m gonna be here no matter what – I can’t help it. I don’t know why I feel this way. I wasn’t given an instruction manual on how to be human, all I know is that when you leave a room, I wonder “where are you?” I know we just met yesterday but the weirdest thing is all day today I couldn’t stop thinking about you. What the fuck did you do to my head?” Then proceed to travel bag routine.
· Love isn’t being with someone; love is being away from someone and needing to be with them.

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Awesome guys, that's good stuff. I wish I had this info yesterday, and on Saturday, and on Halloween. LMR has fucked me with 3 different occasions with 3 different girls. I'm getting there guys, with your help!

Also try my tension theory, it uses a dual date to get laid without any issues on the second one, it's explained in this LR lr-very-informative-amp-very-helpful-la ... 54574.html

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Being persistent and unemotional works wonders for LMR.

Jlaix (a.k.a Jeffy) from RSD is wonderful at overcoming LMR.

-"I wanna lick it."

-"Irrelevant." "Cut the shit." "Time to fuck."

I'm personally about 10-for-10 using the Irrelevant, Cut the shit, Time to fuck. One of those three answers should work for almost any excuse she has.

Earlier this year I was in Finland doing some daygame in Helsinki and met a gorgeous 9. The entire interaction went a little something like this...

nomad: Wow that's a lot of bags! (she had been shopping)
hb9: Yeah I know! Want to help me out?
nomad: Nope, but I'll walk with you while you carry them.
hb9: You're such an ass!
nomad: Yeah, I know...I'm horrible.

hb9: You're really not going to help me?
nomad: Nope, but I'll sit down and have a drink with you.
hb9: No time! I have to drop these bags off at my sister's apartment and then I'm meeting up with her and her friends in the park.
nomad: Cool, I'll come with.
hb9: You can't, I am meeting a guy there.
nomad: I want to meet him too.
hb9: Are you gay or something?
nomad: Yep, EXTREMELY gay. You have no idea. I'm what you call a "Flamer".
hb9: Bla, bla, bla.
nomad: Well then, I'll atleast escort you to your sister's apartment. Maybe she'll like me.

(Yadda, yadda, bla, bla...five minutes later we walk into her sister's apartment. Sister has left a note that she already went to the park and they are waiting on hb9. I sit on the couch and hb9 puts away the bags)

hb9: Okay, I've gotta go...they are waiting on me.
nomad: Not yet, come here.
hb9: Why? What do you want?
nomad: Kiss me.
hb9: What?? I don't even know you. (I go in and kiss her)

nomad: Now take this off (I try to lift up her shirt)
hb9: Nooo! You're crazy, I don't even know you. Let's go!!
nomad: Take it off. (I'm sitting back on the couch and she is standing up still)
hb9: Never! You're psycho! Let's go! I'm serious!
nomad: I'm serious. Take it off. (Unphased, laid back tone, non-threatening)

(Yadda yadda, persistence, persistence...finally the shirt comes off, I do the same routine with the pants)

nomad: I want to fuck you.
hb9: You're crazy, never going to happen!
nomad: It will be amazing, a story to tell your grandchildren.
hb9: You're insane and psycho! Let's leave now.
nomad: Let's fuck now.
hb9: I can't, I don't know you.
nomad: Irrelevant.
hb9: My sister and her friends are waiting on me.
nomad: Cut the shit.
hb9: But that guy...
nomad: TIME TO FUCK!
hb9: But...I just met you...I can't do this...I...I...my friends are waiting!
nomad: Cut the shit.
hb9: I'm not that kind of girl. I really have to go, I'm late!
nomad: Irrelevant.
hb9: This is crazy, what are you doing to me?
nomad: Time to fuck!
hb9: Okay.

(Couch sex ensues, after I finish I go to the bathroom, and come back out to her still laying on the couch)

hb9: What did you do to me? It's like you hypnotized me. I seriously don't do things like that.
nomad: I feel so used. I just wanted to make sure you made it up here okay and didn't fall down the stairs carrying your bags, next thing I know I'm being seduced. You're some kind of witch.

(HB9 calls her sister and tells her what she just did with me. Within 30 minutes of meeting her on a crowded street in broad daylight, I was inside of her. HB9 ends up inviting me to the park with her afterall. We get there and the entire group of friends are laughing, the sister told them what happened. She's all over me the whole time, the guy she was supposed to meet doesn't know what to do...he tries to be my friend. Me and HB9 excuse ourselves an hour later and go back to have more sex. We meet back up with the friends after that and go out for the night. I end up staying with HB9 at her sister's place for the night and leave in the morning before she wakes up. We never talked again, no numbers were even exchanged...she did add me on facebook a couple of weeks later though)

How did I know the sex was on? She let me come up to the apartment with her.

Did she plan on sleeping with me when we went upstairs? Probably not.

Did she give me a window to seduce her? Indeed.

Remember, girls are every bit down for sex as much as we are, maybe more. They just try to hide it. After all, they are the ones that scream and shake during their orgasms.

When I reflect back now, I think of so many times when I was in high school and college and a girl would come over to visit for a few minutes. We'd chat it up, watch a little TV, then she'd leave. If I had half of the knowledge or balls that I do now, I could have hooked up with so many of them. No doubt in my mind.

The moral of this story is that Jeffy of RSD is a genius. Persistence pays off, as long as you're indifferent about what she says and stay cool about it the whole time...if you get physically aggressive or raise your voice, you could get yourself in a lot of trouble. Dangerous stuff if you don't know how to do it, but an absolute LMR killer if you know what you're doing.

This is basically the opposite of what some of the other guys are telling you, but both can obviously work. They are telling you to act like you are turned off, not worried about the sex, etc. It's not my game, but it's worked for tons of guys. Different people have different styles, you have to find what's congruent with your personality. If you're a "nice guy", then this will definitely not work for you, you'll come off as really creepy.

As for me, I stand firm and don't deny the fact that I want to sleep with her. Irrelevant, Cut the Shit, Time to Fuck. If all else fails, I let her know that I wanna lick it.

I just realized this is my first ever Lay Report...I've never been into it before, but it was kind of fun reliving great times. Perhaps I'll post some more in the future.

Hope this helps in some way! If it does, thank the infamous Jlaix!

People usually concentrate how to destroy LMR when it appears, not when you are gaming and talking to her. Its like knowing that there is a chance that its going to rain outside because the forecast guy from the TV said so. Why not take the umbrella with you before you go out?

Try to prevent future LMR by talking about these five things ( in a story mode ) that stops her sleeping with a guy ( Vin DiCarlo )
1. STD ( Yeah, i once had a friend who didnt use a condom with a girl and i told him that i was just stupid because making love is a two way street. This indicates that you are responsible guy who thinks girl when having sex, not some idiot.)
2. Pregnancy ( i dont usually bring this subject up but it can be related to the previous sentence )
3. Falling too fast for love that leads to stalking ( Im going to move to the australia with in the next few months- this deletes the idea of you stalking her because you are leaving the country )
4. Social consequences like she thinking that her CO- workers might think that she is a slut if they find out a guy having one night stand with her ( tell a story about you meeting a guy at a bar counter and him pointing out girls that he has slept with. Info her that you find this very very stupid and that you keep all the personal things to yourself )
5. Her sleeping with me too soon and than by ruining the changes for the future relationship / friendship

-Vin DiCarlo says that these 5 things are the things that prevents women sleeping with a men in this modern society

And another one...

Some tips for future fingering to prevent LMR:
1. When you start fingering, dont slip your hand from the front way but INSTEAD go through the back. They rarely resist it when you put your another hand behind her back and you slipp your hand into her pants and start fingering her from behind.
2. While you finger her, dont stop it when you start opening her buttons from her pants!! The common mistake is that guys stop fingerin which means that you stop produceing the pleasure. FINGER HER FROM THE BACK AND OPEN HER BUTTONS WITH YOUR ANOTHER HAND BY PULLING THE ZIPPER FIRST HALF WAY THROUGH AND THAN GRABBING HER BUTTONS!
3. Few good ways to submit her to have sex is to ask: " do you want me to put a condom " ( while fingering and opening her buttons ) When she says yes ( because she doesent want to get STD or pregnant ) she allows at the same time that you can take her and make love. Another way to do this is just tell her to " take your pants off " when you are fingering her and you have opener her zipper to the half way and her buttons.
4. When you have her pants down and she has agreed to have sex with you ( part 3 ) move your fingering hand from the back to the front inorder to produce more pleasure!

Respect to Vin DiCarlo who invented this
[ Johnny B ]

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Fear has a large shadow, but he himself is small. ~Ruth Gendler

Here is another one orginally posted by bilbil85 which seems to work nicely when you watch the 5 things about women thinking whether jumping in bed with you or not. The golden key here is that you try to destroy her LMR BEFORE you make your final move.

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Yeah trust. It's a funny thing. I actually lost some faith in girls a couple of years ago". Now you need to pause here to get her to ask why. By doing the pause you achieve a couple of things. The first is that you don't blow your cover about your rehearsed story by reeling off a memorised statement. The second is that you may be placing her in the perfect position for your intentions. She will hopefully want to prove you wrong and restore your faith in the trust of women.

"I had a one night stand with a girl and we didn't see each other again for a couple of months". Here you are saying to her that one night stands are okay. The way you are saying it in open conversation with this girl will downplay the one night stand black cloud that hovers over it in girls minds.

Then say: "I lost her number so I couldn't catch up with her". You are now telling her that you didn't act like the typical male bastard by not ringing her after getting what all males only want. You're saying you would have, if only you hand't lost her number. It also says you still want to see a girl after a one night stand and she will think: "If I fuck him tonite he won't just burn me like other guys have done to my friends and also to me. This guy is great. I won't have to play the hard to get routine with him to keep him interested in me. I can fuck him tonite and he'll still ring me".

Then you say: "Anyway, what happened was that a very close friend of mine one day just came right out and asked me if I'd slept with this girl". You are now putting in her mind that you don't ever discuss women stories even with your close friends. She's thinking: "If he doesn't mouth off to his friends he probably doesn't tell anyone what he does".

Then say: "I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I never tell even my best friends what I do and don't do with girls, so she must have been the one to open her mouth". You're now acting shocked and amazed how the info got out because you don't even tell your best mates. You have made her believe your story about not telling your friends because it is a close mate who is telling you this news and you are just beside yourself as to how he would know what happened. She will be thinking now: "The girl must have been the one to tell his friend because who else would have"?

When you deliver these lines, after a while you will even start to believe them yourself. Try to let yourself get involved in the fantasy of your lines to women. When you convey your well timed lines in this manner you will be well on the way to getting the woman or women you desire."

[ Johnny B ]
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Fear has a large shadow, but he himself is small. ~Ruth Gendler

Hey it worked bitches! Now I have to explain hickeys to my work, got anything for that?