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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:42 pm 
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Theres been this girl i've known for about a year now, but havent really gotten to know her until recently. I've been hanging out with her irregularly for about two months now, at most twice a week. for the first couple sessions i tried to get to know her, and had a good many intellectual conversations with her. She is a shy girl, plays in a band, but admittedly told me she didnt have many good friends. During these first coupel sessions i didnt do any heavy push/pull, but did alot of c/f and hooking, release tactics. Last week she called me twenty minutes before she had to leave to see a show, and i said i would go along, so its me n her, we go see this band and i kinoed, for a good portion of the show rested my arm across her shoulders. But here's where im stumped, she admits she has excellent times with me, but doesnt call me too much to hang out, most of the time i have to initiate it if i want to hang out. Today i noticed when i made e/c that her pupils were small as fuck, and i told her i had two hours to hang before my next class, she also had two hours. So basically we talk for 15 mins and she goes to spend her two hours reading. I keep thinking if i actually said lets hang out and tried to do something, she probably wouldve, but this dumbass forgot to say that. I also just incorporated push/pull into my attempt, but i feel like i may have pushed too much, and now shes just questioning how much i really like her. I need some advice on where i could take this, I feel like i'm winding up in the friend zone, and am tryin to get out asap if thats the case. Oh and the closest touching has been us holding hands one night after a party, i have yet to make out/fuck this one.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:27 pm 
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I completely understand what you are going through. You want her, but she gives you signs as if she could care less. Luckily you have been doing some kino and that has kept you out of the friend-zone so far. However, I think that you have raised comfort too much to the point that you are a cool guy but not cool enough to have sex with. Before I get to the most important piece of advice for this case, I would like to tell you that you may need to stop chasing her too much. Show her that you have options by not chasing her. One piece of advice that I have, which has worked marvels with me, is to develop a jealousy plotline where she is able to notice that you are a desirable candidate. Women love to have what is already coveted and what they find eluding.
It is quite simple to do, namely, use a stranger or someone you know as a pawn. I find it easier to get someone you know because then they can play the game exactly as you want them to. You could also game girls in front of your real target, which will show you off as a confident and coveted guy.
I have taken it as far as telling stories where I had a girl on my d*** because I was doing XYZ to her. As long as you have details about everything, she will believe you to be that guy portrayed in the story.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:13 pm 
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Tick Tock, pal. That friend zone comes rather quickly. I guess you have to ask yourself what you ultimately want, because really you have two options: One is to make a move and risk putting your relationship in a space that she's not comfortable being in, and the other is to play it safe and maybe have to honor of being her BFF one day. You just seem to be more focused on turning her off than turning her on. Truthfully, she's either into you, or she's not, but that can always change. there's nothing wrong with holding hands or turning her into your own personal armrest, necessarily, but that's not what's gonna do it. keep in mind that ultimately you're out to please one person, and that's YOU. Don't let her delegate because that's the man's job, but if you're really so concerned with losing her as a friend, then maybe you should just be buddies. Like i said, you just gotta ask yourself what you want and be okay with letting things go if she's not able to give it to you.

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