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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:24 am 
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Suggestive inside joke about her being crabby when she's not getting any.

Me-Don't worry I know why your crabby

Her-LOL oh whatever unless you plan on helping shut it.

Me-Well, I do have standards, so you'll have to buy me a drink first.

Her-LOL are you saying I don't meet your standards?

Me-I be more then happy to oblige, but in this case should I be expecting money on the night stand. Since your gonna treat me like a man whore?

Her-Ha you say that now...

Me-Say what now?

Her-Nevermind...So my friend and I were watching Lost and this guy told a girl if he could ask her anything she wanted what would it be, what would you ask me?

Me-Umm...You gonna buy me that drink?

Her-Are you trying to be subtle and ask if I'm gonna have sex with you? Cause I'm a straight forward girl, just ask.

***I felt baited***

Me-Well if your gonna turn me into a giggalo I guess a better question would be, should I be expecting cash or credit?

Her-Your cute, but I don't pay for sex. Plus I don't sleep with someone on the first date.

Me-So what's your question?

Her-Ummmm, howmany women have you slept with?

Me-Straight to the point...2.


In the end I didn't 'get lucky', I feel I may have lost the oppurtunity here, cause the the conversation only lost sexual moment after this. Where'd I go wrong. What LMR did I miss here?


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Should I blame my 'number'...Cause that fucking embarrassing if thats why...She was an HB8.5 BTW. Confirmed by my buddy.


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Alright, i thought I might take a crack at this. I just woke up with my computer on my lap where I passed out talking to a friend and figured, "Hey, wth, i'll try something after a smoke."

First thing, No i don't think it's the number. She said you're cute, and that she was straightforward, so she probably thinks you're... I think you get the point.

I picked up two drop spots. The first of these would be....

"Her-Ha you say that now...

Me-Say what now?

Her-Nevermind...So my friend and I were.... (blah blah blah)"

Maybe the wrong reaction. I feel it was a good idea to press this subject, but not so much in this manner. It felt like you had the chance to take this... Rather attractive "She-bull" by the proverbial horns. I don't know, something along the lines of, "Yeah, I do say that." This drives home several points, one of them being that you feel like she's whoring you up. It's harder for her to drop this point by just changing the subject, and MAYBE keeps some of your hard earned sexual tension.

This is just me, thinking more than anything... I mean, i've got little to no experience in pick-up, so this is my little disclaimer deal.

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didnt you even get her number? from that convo i'd say she was interested in f*cking you dude. she was almost telling you 'i'd fuck you but not on the first date because i dont wana look like a slut!'


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Vision is right. And at that point you should have called her out. You should have said. "Why? Not to look like a slut?"

It's straight forward and it's an emotional question, and based on her answer to it depends on how you can tug on her emotional strings a bit. You could have been the one asking how many men have she slept with, or asked her about any children she's been keeping a secret from you. Simple shit like that keeps the topic light and semi-sexual. But most importantly what happened towards the end of the conversation, you handed the lead to the conversation to her.

"Me-So what's your question?

Her-Ummmm, howmany women have you slept with?"

Always keep in front, and in control of every conversation with the woman. Unless this was like the 3rd date. If a woman asks you a personal question like that... do your best to flip the script on her and gain back the lead.

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or asked her about any children she's been keeping a secret from you
ha haaaa, i like that. im not one for canned material but i do have a few cool personal lines up my sleeve, and im using this one!


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didnt you even get her number? from that convo i'd say she was interested in f*cking you dude. she was almost telling you 'i'd fuck you but not on the first date because i dont wana look like a slut!'
I did end up getting a number, but the convo only got proportionally worse after this. I ended up saying something like--'I told you I got standards, and not just anyone wins with me.' I tried gaining some momentum and contol on the convo., but in the end failed. She started doing a lot of texting, and I didn't know how to successfully break this. I am new at this, and I definitly won't be making the same mistakes(hopefully) more then twice. I guess I was half way taken aback by her aggressiveness. I'm not use to that especially because I struggled with confidence in the past to just approach someone. Certainly a work in progress.


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or asked her about any children she's been keeping a secret from you
ha haaaa, i like that. im not one for canned material but i do have a few cool personal lines up my sleeve, and im using this one!
I agree I attempting to do things closest to original as possible, aside from the 'buy me a drink' line. This is a great one line and I will be using this in my arsenal next time. Me seeking originality is somewhat because I'm new and I haven't read a ton of material.


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dude it sounds like youve got a great attitude. the important thing is that youre getting out there and approaching. i think you'll go far. keep it up.


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Her-Are you trying to be subtle and ask if I'm gonna have sex with you? Cause I'm a straight forward girl, just ask.

***I felt baited***
I think you went wrong here. You should have emphasized that you have standards and that you are the prize. I'd make out like she was asking you for sex (though she may not have been) and say "I'm not that easy. You're a cute girl and all but beauty is common, what else can you show me?" or something like that.

IMHO it was a bad idea to talk about you being a gigalo. At that point if she makes any kind of move on you, which she might have been ready to do, she looks like a cheap slut who has to pay for sex, which she won't do even if she wants to. It was also reactive, which lowers your value, kind of like failing a shit test though you weren't even being tested.


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Thanks for the responses, my buddy thinks that it was the fact that I answered her question...not my number, but my answer.

He said I should of said something like 'Well, I woulda bought you a T-Shirt but your only number 498.'


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Yeah, I think you misplayed this one. Live and learn. Your low number is a non-issue. She hit you with a very personal, private, sexual question. There are lots of ways you can bat this back to her in a fun way and put the focus on her sex life. Instead, you gave her the upper hand and took all the fun out of the convo at the same time. She had not earned the right to that kind of private information about you. Giving it up so easily was a sign of weakness and showed that you like her more than you should at this stage.

I bet if you get creative you could think of a good retort that keeps the flow going. Then later after you know each other a little better and you have a quiet moment, you can divulge the information and make her feel like you've decided she is worthy of it. Then you can ask for some of her private info in exchange. It can be kind of a bonding moment and bring you closer. Right now it's just a test and sadly, you failed. Don't beat yourself up though. You did a great job up until that point.


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