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Yea we do. Paul wrote in his letter in the bible about it.

He says Love is enduring, it is NOT jealous, rude, resentful, or angry.

ultimently everything that we are not.

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Yea we do. Paul wrote in his letter in the bible about it.

He says Love is enduring, it is NOT jealous, rude, resentful, or angry.

ultimently everything that we are not.
A true, ideal PUA feels no jealousy because he understands the real dynamics of sexuality. He holds courteous values to heart, such as leaving her better than he found her. He feels no resentment because he has overcome his inner demons and has learned to truly adore women. He has no reason to be angry because life is good.


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Yea we do. Paul wrote in his letter in the bible about it.

He says Love is enduring, it is NOT jealous, rude, resentful, or angry.

ultimently everything that we are not.
A true, ideal PUA feels no jealousy because he understands the real dynamics of sexuality. He holds courteous values to heart, such as leaving her better than he found her. He feels no resentment because he has overcome his inner demons and has learned to truly adore women. He has no reason to be angry because life is good.
Exactly.

If a girl cheats on me, I don't think twice about it.

I tell her, "hey, enjoy life, I hope you're happy" and on to the next.

Etc

I've never felt jealousy... Well, I used to, but I never expressed it.

I no longer do, or I try not to. :)

99.9% of the time.

Jealousy is uncontrollable, though.

It's like attraction, you can lie and say that girl is ugly, but you know she's hot shit.

Good stuff Chief.

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Yea we do. Paul wrote in his letter in the bible about it.

He says Love is enduring, it is NOT jealous, rude, resentful, or angry.

ultimently everything that we are not.
Well, if Paul meant "ENDURING" (in the pursuit for lots of pussy), then I suppose PUA's are on top of the list for "LOVING PEOPLE". Otherwise, we fail the test. Life is still good.


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Yea we do. Paul wrote in his letter in the bible about it.

He says Love is enduring, it is NOT jealous, rude, resentful, or angry.

ultimently everything that we are not.
A true, ideal PUA feels no jealousy because he understands the real dynamics of sexuality. He holds courteous values to heart, such as leaving her better than he found her. He feels no resentment because he has overcome his inner demons and has learned to truly adore women. He has no reason to be angry because life is good.
To say for one to feel no jealously is to say one is to not be human. Jealously is one of many emotions we feel. We can no doubt curb it or control it to an extent as well as learn how to deal with it better (which I think you are more talking about here). But we can never remove it from ourselves. Because once we do that we no longer are human. Besides some jealously is good for us as it can push us or encourage us to something good.


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Besides some jealously is good for us as it can push us or encourage us to something good.
Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?

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Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?
the only good i can think is the lesson learned when one realizes this negative trait of his/her and makes an conscious decision to change. the 'good' that comes from it is the positive change.

jealousy it all comes down to insecurities and the fear of losing something that you perceive to be of value to you. if you have an abundance of value....well then you know there is more than enough to go around and will not fear losing value at all. jealous people see themselves as having limited value which they need to guard with their lives.


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Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?
Emotion is a dynamic process (of course). A theory in psychology states that there is such a thing as a basic level of emotion. Consider it as a constant line in time.
Outer processes can disturb this continuity: That line can go down (negative emotions), or up (positive emotions). Of course thoughts are considered as an outer process as well.

Our inner physiology however, wants to restabilize this emotional line. Those who know a little about the human body ( :wink: ), know that there's always an overshoot when our body wants to correct a disturbance.

Outcome is that after one would run a marathon (except for the endorphines, his body is in total pain), that person will feel great, surprisingly enough. And that's not only because he made the finish.
That's also the reason why after an argument with your GF, you have the most passionate sex.
Hell, that's probably the reason why negs even work on a girl (yeah yeah, there are more reasons than this, I know!).

So there surely must be some positive effect after feeling jaleous.

Personally I think jaleousy should only be a thought, not an action though.


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Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?
Emotion is a dynamic process (of course). A theory in psychology states that there is such a thing as a basic level of emotion. Consider it as a constant line in time.
Outer processes can disturb this continuity: That line can go down (negative emotions), or up (positive emotions). Of course thoughts are considered as an outer process as well.

Our inner physiology however, wants to restabilize this emotional line. Those who know a little about the human body ( :wink: ), know that there's always an overshoot when our body wants to correct a disturbance.

Outcome is that after one would run a marathon (except for the endorphines, his body is in total pain), that person will feel great, surprisingly enough. And that's not only because he made the finish.
That's also the reason why after an argument with your GF, you have the most passionate sex.
Hell, that's probably the reason why negs even work on a girl (yeah yeah, there are more reasons than this, I know!).

So there surely must be some positive effect after feeling jaleous.

Personally I think jaleousy should only be a thought, not an action though.
Exactly what I was trying to say (The last part, at least, haha)

Why have you not posted here before? I tl;dr most posts, but I actually read that and I found it very interesting.

I think you should post more so I can be entertained by your knowledge. :)

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Besides some jealously is good for us as it can push us or encourage us to something good.
Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?
StGermain said it better than I could. But think about it jealously does come about when you do not have something that someone else has, and in turn you can end up wanting to have what they have as well. You see a guy your age with a hot girl that you don't have. For me I would want to go out and get a hot girl myself. But then again I use my jealously as a positive and not a negative as I turn it into a goal to reach.


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jealousy it all comes down to insecurities and the fear of losing something that you perceive to be of value to you. if you have an abundance of value....well then you know there is more than enough to go around and will not fear losing value at all. jealous people see themselves as having limited value which they need to guard with their lives.
Jealously can certainly come out of insecurities. But it can also come out due to you not having what someone else has because you can't get it but want it when you see it, in other words envy.


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But it can also come out due to you not having what someone else has because you can't get it but want it when you see it, in other words envy.
Exactly, but what does it mean when someone else has more value than you? (whether it be self worth, or a lamborgini). A jealous person will now see himself as having low value because the other person has higher value RELATIVE TO HIM. In effect he has just lost value (relative to this other person). Its the same concept at the end of the day. ya get me?


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That's also the reason why after an argument with your GF, you have the most passionate sex.
Yup, well this is why stormy relationships are so passionate. Both partners are really just addicted to extreme dopamine hits. Dopamine (for those of you that dont know) is the near transmitter associated with being addicted to feeling good (if i can put it that way). These partners are literally dopamine junkies and this is why 'up and down' (or make up and break up) relationships are so hard to end for good. When you're fighting with your gfriend, and all of a sudden you make up, this is a massive dopamine hit for both of you and the it feels SO good to make up as there has been a big jump in positive emotions relative to the negative emotions that you were experiencing during your fight.

This is also why couples who don't really fight at all or disagree on anything don't have much passion in their relationship. Disagreement is a good thing (in moderation), this how you as a partner are able to enrich your partners life, by learning from each other, and THIS is what creates tension and passion in the bedroom. When you finally agree (ie. make up) you have both just enriched each other's lives as you now have a new understanding of each other...and the result?...AWESOME sex tonight!!


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Yes, but some things that you have feelings for create jealously regardless of value.

I was jealous when I let my girl go and like a week later I found out she was with some guy.

I had, what, maybe 12 + girls I could of called up that night (abundance, why be jealous, right?) and fucked.

But, I was jealous because she was the ONE.

Even if you have abundance of females or physical capital, sometimes sentimental value cannot be replaced.

Like, for example, I wouldn't trade my family in for cash, or the teddy bear I sleep with every night (example)

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Besides some jealously is good for us as it can push us or encourage us to something good.
Can you give me an example of how something "good" comes from Jealously?
This whole community wouldn't exist if jealousy didn't! It started because guys saw other guy's who were good with women and though..."shit, i really wish i was good with women!"

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