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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:35 pm 
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Ok, so here's the thing: I've lived in Australia for about 10 years now but still maintained my English accent, which is of the BBC News variety (eg no real detectable region) although I'm from London.

Inevitably, the conversation always comes to it. Usually, chicks say it's a good thing. Today, some girl said she loves guys with accents but it didn't seem directed at me, just in general. Like, if someone else had my accent or something. I've found that often, women say they love the accent, but it doesn't seem like an 'attraction' thing, just a quirk. Often they'll say, "yeah, it's really attractive". but as if it's not to them, or they're not attracted to me but the accent, but on a different guy it'd be better or something.

What's the deal? In other's experience, does my accent help or hinder?

Also, how do I turn that into something? They really lay it on thick that they dig it, but how do I turn it towards them digging me instead without making it obvious and going "hey, you know what, I have that accent that you like!!! You should like me!!" This conversation always leaves me in an awkward position where I either have to go all-in and state my intentions (which I've heard turns girls off) or just look like a pussy and fall into the friend zone.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:44 pm 
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Ok, so here's the thing: I've lived in Australia for about 10 years now but still maintained my English accent, which is of the BBC News variety (eg no real detectable region) although I'm from London.

Inevitably, the conversation always comes to it. Usually, chicks say it's a good thing. Today, some girl said she loves guys with accents but it didn't seem directed at me, just in general. Like, if someone else had my accent or something. I've found that often, women say they love the accent, but it doesn't seem like an 'attraction' thing, just a quirk. Often they'll say, "yeah, it's really attractive". but as if it's not to them, or they're not attracted to me but the accent, but on a different guy it'd be better or something.

What's the deal? In other's experience, does my accent help or hinder?

Also, how do I turn that into something? They really lay it on thick that they dig it, but how do I turn it towards them digging me instead without making it obvious and going "hey, you know what, I have that accent that you like!!! You should like me!!" This conversation always leaves me in an awkward position where I either have to go all-in and state my intentions (which I've heard turns girls off) or just look like a pussy and fall into the friend zone.
Mate, you're in a great position and you're getting worried about it! When a girl tells you she likes your accent, this IS an IOI. She IS saying she likes YOU. When you get an IOI, it's a good idea to reward it. Move your body language closer and/or kino escalate. Don't actually talk about the IOI, just acknowledge it and move the conversation on to something else.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:50 pm 
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Ok, so here's the thing: I've lived in Australia for about 10 years now but still maintained my English accent, which is of the BBC News variety (eg no real detectable region) although I'm from London.

Inevitably, the conversation always comes to it. Usually, chicks say it's a good thing. Today, some girl said she loves guys with accents but it didn't seem directed at me, just in general. Like, if someone else had my accent or something. I've found that often, women say they love the accent, but it doesn't seem like an 'attraction' thing, just a quirk. Often they'll say, "yeah, it's really attractive". but as if it's not to them, or they're not attracted to me but the accent, but on a different guy it'd be better or something.

What's the deal? In other's experience, does my accent help or hinder?

Also, how do I turn that into something? They really lay it on thick that they dig it, but how do I turn it towards them digging me instead without making it obvious and going "hey, you know what, I have that accent that you like!!! You should like me!!" This conversation always leaves me in an awkward position where I either have to go all-in and state my intentions (which I've heard turns girls off) or just look like a pussy and fall into the friend zone.
Mate, you're in a great position and you're getting worried about it! When a girl tells you she likes your accent, this IS an IOI. She IS saying she likes YOU. When you get an IOI, it's a good idea to reward it. Move your body language closer and/or kino escalate. Don't actually talk about the IOI, just acknowledge it and move the conversation on to something else.
Shoot. that's where I was falling down. Convo always seems to go TOWARDS the accent. Like, we'll spend ages talking about different accents and such, in a fluffy BS way, and then the convo usually falls apart before going to something else. How would you suggest steering it onto something different whilst rewarding it?

Cheers.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
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Ok, so here's the thing: I've lived in Australia for about 10 years now but still maintained my English accent, which is of the BBC News variety (eg no real detectable region) although I'm from London.

Inevitably, the conversation always comes to it. Usually, chicks say it's a good thing. Today, some girl said she loves guys with accents but it didn't seem directed at me, just in general. Like, if someone else had my accent or something. I've found that often, women say they love the accent, but it doesn't seem like an 'attraction' thing, just a quirk. Often they'll say, "yeah, it's really attractive". but as if it's not to them, or they're not attracted to me but the accent, but on a different guy it'd be better or something.

What's the deal? In other's experience, does my accent help or hinder?

Also, how do I turn that into something? They really lay it on thick that they dig it, but how do I turn it towards them digging me instead without making it obvious and going "hey, you know what, I have that accent that you like!!! You should like me!!" This conversation always leaves me in an awkward position where I either have to go all-in and state my intentions (which I've heard turns girls off) or just look like a pussy and fall into the friend zone.
Mate, you're in a great position and you're getting worried about it! When a girl tells you she likes your accent, this IS an IOI. She IS saying she likes YOU. When you get an IOI, it's a good idea to reward it. Move your body language closer and/or kino escalate. Don't actually talk about the IOI, just acknowledge it and move the conversation on to something else.
Shoot. that's where I was falling down. Convo always seems to go TOWARDS the accent. Like, we'll spend ages talking about different accents and such, in a fluffy BS way, and then the convo usually falls apart before going to something else. How would you suggest steering it onto something different whilst rewarding it?

Cheers.
Like this.

HB: Hey that's a cool accent
PUA: Thanks.

You move your body language further towards her.

PUA: So anyway this crazy thing happened to me the other day...

As you begin telling the story you touch her arm (or if you're already at arm touching, the small of her back etc.)

Accept the complement, reward it with kino/body language, and move the conversation onto something else like a DHV story.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:12 pm 
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Mate, you're in a great position and you're getting worried about it! When a girl tells you she likes your accent, this IS an IOI. She IS saying she likes YOU. When you get an IOI, it's a good idea to reward it. Move your body language closer and/or kino escalate. Don't actually talk about the IOI, just acknowledge it and move the conversation on to something else.
Shoot. that's where I was falling down. Convo always seems to go TOWARDS the accent. Like, we'll spend ages talking about different accents and such, in a fluffy BS way, and then the convo usually falls apart before going to something else. How would you suggest steering it onto something different whilst rewarding it?

Cheers.
Like this.

HB: Hey that's a cool accent
PUA: Thanks.

You move your body language further towards her.

PUA: So anyway this crazy thing happened to me the other day...

As you begin telling the story you touch her arm (or if you're already at arm touching, the small of her back etc.)

Accept the complement, reward it with kino/body language, and move the conversation onto something else like a DHV story.
Cool. Although I still have a LONG way to go before I'm comfortable touching her (unless drunk). I'm sure I'll work it out though. Thanks!!

Still, I have the thought that it's not always directed at me. It's hard to explain. Like "I like guys with accents" (but implying "not you though"). Like they'll say they like Robert Pattinson and his accent, and then compare me to the much less attractive Harry Potter. I get the impression it's not an IOI of me, but an IOI of someone else with different attributes who would be better with my accent. Let's face it; if Jabba the Hutt had that accent they would still say they liked the accent but still not be attracted to him. I guess I'll have to play it on a case-by-case basis.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Shoot. that's where I was falling down. Convo always seems to go TOWARDS the accent. Like, we'll spend ages talking about different accents and such, in a fluffy BS way, and then the convo usually falls apart before going to something else. How would you suggest steering it onto something different whilst rewarding it?

Cheers.
Like this.

HB: Hey that's a cool accent
PUA: Thanks.

You move your body language further towards her.

PUA: So anyway this crazy thing happened to me the other day...

As you begin telling the story you touch her arm (or if you're already at arm touching, the small of her back etc.)

Accept the complement, reward it with kino/body language, and move the conversation onto something else like a DHV story.
Cool. Although I still have a LONG way to go before I'm comfortable touching her (unless drunk). I'm sure I'll work it out though. Thanks!!

Still, I have the thought that it's not always directed at me. It's hard to explain. Like "I like guys with accents" (but implying "not you though"). Like they'll say they like Robert Pattinson and his accent, and then compare me to the much less attractive Harry Potter. I get the impression it's not an IOI of me, but an IOI of someone else with different attributes who would be better with my accent. Let's face it; if Jabba the Hutt had that accent they would still say they liked the accent but still not be attracted to him. I guess I'll have to play it on a case-by-case basis.
No. It's a compliment, and it's directed towards you. Why, of all the things she could possibly talk about, has she chosen the fact she likes people with accents. Because YOU have one, my friend. She is saying, loud and clear "ONE OF THE MANY CRITERIA THAT I LIKE IN A MAN IS X, AND YOU FULFILL X. WHAT OTHER CRITERIA MIGHT YOU POSSIBLY FULFILL?"

Secondly, you MUST start getting comfortable touching women, when sober or drunk. If you don't start touching within your first interaction or two with a woman, it's going to be very hard to escalate towards sex.

Start simple, when you make a point or hit the punchline of a joke "and then he said THIS!" just touch her arm around the shoulder. You can also do innocent "accidental" touching like brushing your cheek against her when you're whispering something, or holding her back or hip to move her out of the way of somebody who's trying to get to the bar. Anything. The main points are 1. never make it awkward, do it casually and naturally and NEVER look where you're touching, 2. escalate touching over time, so you start with her arm, then the small of her back, then her legs, etc. Good times to kino are at punchlines of jokes, and especially to reward compliant behaviour.


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 Post subject: Re: My Accent
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:30 pm 
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Like this.

HB: Hey that's a cool accent
PUA: Thanks.

You move your body language further towards her.

PUA: So anyway this crazy thing happened to me the other day...

As you begin telling the story you touch her arm (or if you're already at arm touching, the small of her back etc.)

Accept the complement, reward it with kino/body language, and move the conversation onto something else like a DHV story.
Cool. Although I still have a LONG way to go before I'm comfortable touching her (unless drunk). I'm sure I'll work it out though. Thanks!!

Still, I have the thought that it's not always directed at me. It's hard to explain. Like "I like guys with accents" (but implying "not you though"). Like they'll say they like Robert Pattinson and his accent, and then compare me to the much less attractive Harry Potter. I get the impression it's not an IOI of me, but an IOI of someone else with different attributes who would be better with my accent. Let's face it; if Jabba the Hutt had that accent they would still say they liked the accent but still not be attracted to him. I guess I'll have to play it on a case-by-case basis.
No. It's a compliment, and it's directed towards you. Why, of all the things she could possibly talk about, has she chosen the fact she likes people with accents. Because YOU have one, my friend. She is saying, loud and clear "ONE OF THE MANY CRITERIA THAT I LIKE IN A MAN IS X, AND YOU FULFILL X. WHAT OTHER CRITERIA MIGHT YOU POSSIBLY FULFILL?"

Secondly, you MUST start getting comfortable touching women, when sober or drunk. If you don't start touching within your first interaction or two with a woman, it's going to be very hard to escalate towards sex.

Start simple, when you make a point or hit the punchline of a joke "and then he said THIS!" just touch her arm around the shoulder. You can also do innocent "accidental" touching like brushing your cheek against her when you're whispering something, or holding her back or hip to move her out of the way of somebody who's trying to get to the bar. Anything. The main points are 1. never make it awkward, do it casually and naturally and NEVER look where you're touching, 2. escalate touching over time, so you start with her arm, then the small of her back, then her legs, etc. Good times to kino are at punchlines of jokes, and especially to reward compliant behaviour.
Oh, didn't think of it like that. Thanks.

With the touching, it's always been a problem. Like once, a chick hugged me and it was very awkward and she made a big thing about it, about how i've probably never hugged a girl before (which was true). Very DLV. I just know that when I do it it'd be very thought out and I'd draw attention to it through my body language. I'm fine with fist bumps, wacky handshakes and dancing though, oddly enough, as it fits in with my personality. I give the aura of a slightly unnerved unpredictable mad scientist. Obviously hasn't worked, but just who I am. Obviously, I need to be a bit more laid back and cool. :lol:


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