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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:17 pm 
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Hey TopHat,

I'm going to be completely honest with you and say that I did not read that. I have way too much ADD and too busy of a schedule to read entire conversations that span over 6 pages of text. If you have a specific question or a sticking point then I can help you out!

Try asking about a certain aspect of game and I would be more than happy to help!

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Hi Adam,

massive fan of yours bud, i think that you have some incredible skills!

i especially like the way that you are not ott commercial too - you do what you do because you (seem to) enjoy it and you pass it in because you want to see others with that joyfulness too. Its a really nice trait.

i was reading your stuff and stumbled across this reply to an imposter on my name!

seriously though, MODS: is there any way that this can be rectified? i know the punctuation is slightly different, but its the same name! You're probably a good guy tophat2 and 'Great minds think alike' and all that. But i want my name back!

thank you everyone, and keep up the good work :)


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Heya man,

Thanks for all the advices, bro. U've motivated me to continue my quest.
Cheers for you!

Been quite long in the community with few failures and few success, I'm starting to getting a good grasp on how to game properly, yet sometimes I still get the approach anxiety and millions of excuses to not approach. E.g I can't meet girls in mall, I can't this this etc etc and etc. But better things are, I know if I don't do this right, I got a sense that tells me "this isn't right". But my problems are:

1. When I'm in set and I sense that things doesn't go "right", I can feel it. Whether it's incongruencey, emotional overreaching, etc etc. But often times, I don't know how to fix it. How to solve this? Most of the times, it's incongruency and emotional overreaching or trying too hard to fit in.

And sometimes I'm confused when to go the comfort and reduce the qualification a little bit. And how if she doesn't pass our standard a.k.a her answer isn't satisfying but I love her look?

2. Game works really different here. Meeting girls anywhere by being direct isn't a choice, and talking to a girl you fancy in a mall isn't a choice. It works in social circle game like wonder though. Nobody does qualification here. ;) But,how does game work in a country like this? Or it's just an excuse for me to not approach?

3. One of the girl I approach now (she's one of the cutest girl I've ever met) has just got out from a relationship, how do I get in?

4. When I'm not "in state", you told me that I can always game and go for the "low energy game" by building comfort and genuine deep connection with the person. How to make this kind of game works? Because when I'm not in state, I could say that my attraction game sucks. I'm way too scared to be put on the friend zone. Any advice,buddy??

Thank you for everything mate, sorry if I ask too much

Your best pal,
Steven ;)

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Heya man,

I forgot to add some of these questions in my previous posts. But I dared myself to ask you.

1. I find that when I'm in set, when the conversation already flows, I'm scared of her to being too comfortable and I'll be dropped to the friend zone instantly. So that's why I always try to break rapport and try hard to always qualify and mantain the attraction high. That way sometimes I can't enjoy the conversation. Sometimes I even try to DHV when it's not so much needed anymore. Is this correct thing to do?

If not, what should I do? Is the LJBF zone is something you can control? I know that the answer for western culture is sexualization, but here in Indonesia, the only key to get the kiss or makeouts, etc is relationship. So u can't really sexualize things to get the girl. No kiss before BF-GF's relationship! So, what's the solution for LJBF here?

2. I'm gaming 2 girls right now, the other one just got out from a relationship the other one get dumped after the guy took her virginity. So both girls could have the "all men are jerks" mindset.

How do I solve this,mate?

3. Is social circle game the ONLY way to our hands on the perfect 10?

Thanks for everything man

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Hey, forum nice

What do when girl plays hard to get


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My question over Facebook:


"I attend a small private college of no more than 1400. I'm concerned about gaining reputation as a "player" or some creep that hits on girls on campus. Is this something I should be worried about?"


AFCAdam's Answer:

"Heya man,
two ways to go about it. Be a player and own it. or keep it quiet and move slowley building a social life and moving form there.

Make sure you choose one and stick with it, negatives included. Trying to walk between the two will leave you looking bad."



Thanks AFCAdam. You're the most pimpin' AFC ever. I'm going to play the player and continue cold approaching women on my campus like there's no tomorrow. I have lost my fear of loss, realizing that life is short and that meeting women is only a game -- I have nothing to lose from women that I'm not even hooked up with. Your advice is wonderful, but every second on this forum feels like a waste of valuable time out on the field. There is no faster way to learn then to jump in the fire. Stay in touch, I may come back for help, but hopefully I won't need to.

Cheers,

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Hi Adam. I'm 28 and from Bournemouth. As you probably know this town is great for bars and clubs.. something like 40 venues open on a Friday and Saturday night. Trouble is 90% of the girls are under 21 and the type of girl i like is usually mid twenties and above.

My style is very conversational so i rely on girls being stationary and i do well with older women but the majority of the crowds and the bars are high energy and not really my thing. (i also cant dance and wouldnt want to learn either).

I can stay in the few decent bars and also do day game but i feel im wasting a lot of days and opportunities by not getting to grips with these crazy drunken girls. (some have great bodies, even if they cant stand still or hold convo for 2 seconds).

So my question is what tips do you have to cut out all the rubbish and get straight through to these young party girls WITHOUT dance floor game?


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hey adam,

i decided to sarge today at mcgill. i managed to record my interactions. i decided to post my first interaction on campus which was decent. it was like a 12 minute interaction. i was about to go deep rapport and stuff but she was busy from the start... and had to further continue studying.
nonetheless i approached and managed to have an interesting conversation with her.

btw i dont number close because im approaching daygame only for the purpose of practicing my conversational muscle. im really good at the nightclubs and i am rather talented with fast escalation and getting girls back to my place. however im quite bad at the emotional connection thing so im practicing it now.

so i was hoping you could gimme some tips on my daygame. what could i have done better and what should i improve on.. should i approach girls that are studying like i did.

yes i know i speak extremely fast and i figured out a way to combat it but i just got to get use to it and speaking to myself in my room.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/s3ckws

thanks in advance


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Hey Adam.
Just gotta say I love all your stuff, like you explain it so it sounds so simple and easy to understand, and you teach guys to act normal instead of running these weird routines. You're amazing.
Anyway I have a few problems. I've always been bad socially, mostly thanks to my parents being too over protective of me when I was younger. At the moment I have no friends, and I struggle having conversations even with my own family. I'm in my second year at college, and I still have no friends in my class. I'm still really quiet and shy because I struggle with coming up with anything to say. On breaks they all leave in their groups and never invite me, so I'm always alone. I don't blame them since I don't talk to them much, but I want to hang around with them and obviously I wanna make the most of being in college. I want to make a lot of friends and build a social circle, but I have no idea what to do. Sometimes I've wanted to say something and felt like it would be weird since I've always been quiet before. What do you think would help me out here?
Also I talk to quite a few girls online, and I seem to be able to easily get them interested enough to meet me, but then if I meet them I fuck it up because I run out of things to say really quickly. Help me please? :)


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 Post subject: Adding value
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Hi Adam, I found a quote from one of your videos that can really help me out if you could answer this question. Here is your statement: I get blown out because I cant think of a way to build comfort with someone, but as long as I can think of a way to build comfort, as long as I can find a way to add value to a specific situation, then Im in and once Im in I can break rapport.

My question is, whats is going through your mind when your trying to figure out how to add value to a new set during day game and night game. thanks


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So i met this hb8 on facebook/myspace a year 1/2 ago. I # closed her. (before i learned of PUA) We finally met in June of this year. We've been texting/calling more often since then. I wanna ask her to be my girlfriend. Some extra info: I live in GA, she lives in Ohio. A bit a far away, but a lot of my family lives up there. How often should I text/call?

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 Post subject: hey adam help me out?
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Hey adam i already adressed this on youtube to you but u told me that u dont give out personal information on youtube and told me to post this up on forum lol. To repeat my question im 15 years old and my gr 9 and 10 years were pretty bad as i didnt have much confidence and i hung out with a bad crowd. Now that im learning the game i have made a great deal of new friends and have become much better with girls, but i seem to have the need to show all the hot girls in my school ive changed and its killing my game i get all nervous and shy. What do you suggest i mean i have the social proof thing down alredy but i cant back it up.
- Andrew


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Dear Adam,

I saw a BBC documentary with you a few days back and you were talking to this girl from America who was very fine. Anywho, the cameraman asked you if you were gaming her now you said ya. Afterwards you said and thats how you game a girlfriend. I was wondering if u had any specific tips on gaming girlfriends?

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Heya man,

I don't really know where to start with this, so I'll try my best to explain the situation and make it easier for you. ;)

So, 2 months ago, this girl actually blown me off, after 8 months of unclear relationship (I've confessed that I like her, and she accepts it, but not until

the point that we're in a BF/GF relationship), and it seems to be game over. I've posted about this girl in your thread long long time ago, and u've told me

it's a dead set. But... things happened...

2 weeks after u answered my question, and I've started to forgot about her.. she reinitiated contact. So, I called her and we had a good chat and I prayed

for her (prayed!! haha..) and then she departed to the capital city to continue her study in the college.

Since then, we had a very few chat, but each chat is the best conversations that I could ever had with her.. until... 3 days before my birthday, she

initiated contact and wrote on my Facebook wall.

"oy, mr charming, thursday is ur birthday, huh? I'm going back to Bali around that time, so please invite me to your birthday party ya? hahaha..xp". There's

more, but not so necessary as this sentence. So I replied to her number, and she was like. "Uummmm,why don't u reply in Facebook? u're so mean!" (I was

thinking, why should I write in Facebook, it's visible to public, if she wants it to be seen, it should has different meaning.:) Then I replied with

something simple, tease her to wear something cute and I off to sleep. At 0.03, she texted me "Happy bday,hehe"
I thanked her the next morning and she didn't reply. Who cares??

I took some time the next day to reply to her wall comment, and she asked me back "when's ur piano concert?". I said december, and she said "december?? I'm

coming back again to Bali in December, please invite me to ur concert, I want to see ur performing in the front of millions of people, haha". I think "hey

it's on again?"

So since that day, I had a few text banter with her, I asked her good questions, but she doesn't respond to that part of my text (following some basics of

your text game format), and she responded with something like "yeah, u have ur birthday and u haven't treated me anything", I replied again but she doesn't

respond. The another day, I told her that I was in a cool place and she texted me back with something "why don't u take me out with you? booo, u're such a

mean guy, haha" and not so much.

I catch this big IOI and asked her out the next day. She said okay, but a few hours later she said that she's really really sorry that she forgot that she

has to prepare for her exam and she has some course to take, she was so disappointed, and she jokingly told me, "why don't u tell me earlier?? I'm a busy

girl -_-||"

I just think "this is getting cheesy" so I called her and we had normal chat, even talked about kissing a little, and she's the first one to mention! But it

wasn't that great and I could sense a little bit boredom in her voice, and my credit ran out and the connection was lost. I tried to push the interaction

further with text, but I don't get a reply.

The next day, I tried to anchor the situation with good morning greeting, gave her a "hug" and wish her to have a great day". Still no reply...

This what confuses me, the next day, she told my friend that she changed her number, and gave her new number, but she didn't give me! It's her final day in

my town before she got back to her study, so I just asked her number from my friend and texted her to hang out, to the old and new numb, with no reponses at

all!!

What does this mean,Adam??

For background info, she's a busy, quite nervous girl, and even in her college, she doesn't go out a lot, and my friend also have a few text banter with

her, but even she doesn't always get a reply, so it's not only me. We had met twice before, henceforth it's not a full flake.

What's your thoughts on the matter, Signor? :) And what should I do? Just be friends with her?

Thanks so much for everything, man

Best pal,
Steven ;)

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Hey Adam had i quick question for you one some difference it technique.

When gaming I usually always go first for as much comfort as I can pretty much following your (C-R) +Q+SE. I find that when opening with and going for comfort it gives me a lot more options where I can take the interaction, like if I want to pivot the girl, use the set for social proof etc...

My best wing at the moment really disagrees with this and goes right for attraction with any girl he approaches. He says that I should try a lot more of it in my game but I dont really agree with this because 1. it seems like you can get more women this way throught the social proof factor that you can really generate and 2. I personaly think you get higher qaulity girls

Can you lay out the differences between one and the other because were in somwhat of a friendly deadlock on the subject. We both get laid plenty with our respective veiwpoints and actually may possibly have a very good dynamic together when in the field. But what may be the stregths and weaknesses of both

Thanks a lot

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 Post subject: Breaking Rapport
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I just checked a couple of articles, including one by you to get a better understanding of breaking rapport and I realised I'd just done this with a pretty sexually aggressive girl. however, this other girl isn't and I'm stumped for what to say to her, I feel like I've got nothing to go on (theres no way I could say anything about I'm not having sex with her, she's an ex so I'd freak her out)... are there a couple of standard lines I can tweak!

I don't want you to do the pick up for me, I just need a push here.

At the mo I'd go with... "man, I can't believe how much things have changed for me in the last couple of years, I know we're both doing well career wise but I'm definitely not your type anymore. And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't take my shit and I wouldn't take yours, and we'd argue all the time, I'd win of course! So we're prob not right for each other now. How have things gone for you in the last couple of years?"

Background if you need it...
We always got on well, she split with me because it hurt her that I wanted to travel without her. Now shes almost blocking me. I'd at least like her to be friends and comfortable with meeting up, but I've gotta break down her barriers.

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