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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:37 pm 
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if a guy steps in set and puts his arm round me ....should i headbutt him or just engage friendly ...i had this the other night .....when i opened a girl and he tryed to fuck my shit up ....but he pissed off after a while when he told the girl.....were friends and i said i have no idea who he is ....looked like a right plum ...


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Tell him to take his hands off, but be polite, the second he starts talkign to the women just pull them away from him and continue being nice

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if a guy steps in set and puts his arm round me ....should i headbutt him or just engage friendly ...i had this the other night .....when i opened a girl and he tryed to fuck my shit up ....but he pissed off after a while when he told the girl.....were friends and i said i have no idea who he is ....looked like a right plum ...
Don't engage in physical violence unless you are acting in self-defence.

If a guy tries to AMOG you just be like "hey man, eeeasy there, I like you too but I don't swing that way, sorry. You're a cool guy though, seriously" be smiling and funny about it, and give him a playful pat on the back or something after he backs off. Make sure to keep alpha dominance.


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omg something like this happened to me like twice. The first time I took his hand off but I was not sure what will happen because he tooks me by behind so I was ready punch him. Anyway the second time someone did that to me on the dance floor. I just shook his hand and told him to enjoy the night and moved away.

I guess that happened to you in a bar? If so just engage friendly. A lot of people like to talk to strangers when they drink. Also if you are in a set I guess it's a good think that you show you can handle the situation and after that you can laugh about it with the girl.

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Lol dont think phisical violence is in order here i dont think you should get phisical at all unless he starts going for you even then i would just trip him up or push him out the way. and ignore him, keep your social value but ignoring the guy!

Personaly i would have moved away and used a mystery line "Wow buddy! this shit aint for free you know!" followed by a smile and a roll of the eyes to the girls or simply by saying " I know you your that guy from Harry Potter arnt you! You know the one who trys to hang out with harry but just aint quite kl enough to be part of the party" Make sure his social value is lowered without yours being hurt. Make sure its funny and always smile

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" I know you your that guy from Harry Potter arnt you! You know the one who trys to hang out with harry but just aint quite kl enough to be part of the party" Make sure his social value is lowered without yours being hurt. Make sure its funny and always smile
Nice! I'm gonna use that next time I get AMOGed.


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Goran says, smash the fucker across the lip! be alpha male!

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" I know you your that guy from Harry Potter arnt you! You know the one who trys to hang out with harry but just aint quite kl enough to be part of the party" Make sure his social value is lowered without yours being hurt. Make sure its funny and always smile
Nice! I'm gonna use that next time I get AMOGed.
Lol any big movie quote works buddy but yea its a personal fave. Thanks for the recognition

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Most of these AMOGging gimmicks involve subtly calling the guy a fag or starting a verbal battle of wits. But if you put yourself in the shoes of the amog (you consider your actions were benign/friendly, and this guy calls you a fag and tries to make you look stupid in front of your group), you can see how someone with a fighter mentality might react to it.

Alpha Male naturals tend to use kino a lot, even on guys without thinking about it. You got to really pay attention to the dynamics and see if hes just being friendly in his own way, or actively cockblocking. Pats on the back, tapping on your knee, arm on your shoulder or lightly across part of your back, I noticed these are just friendly extroverted gestures that come naturally to a lot of people. In some situations you can do this back and match his energy level to show him that you are the boss and he is not dominant while you're in the group, like if you respond positively, talking to him like hes your buddy while putting your arm on his shoulder or tapping his knee. If you can't match the contact, being unreactive to his touch while responding positively gets you accepted by the group, and maybe easier than if the former AMOG didn't confront you. Because you show that you're a cool and fun guy, and not a threat.

Example of this is one time I got on the bus and sat in the back there an AMOG was with a group of 5 girls talking, and 2 guys doing nothing. He opened me and I talked to him like he was my friend, he was hitting me on the knee lightly and I didn't react to it at all. Soon afterwards when he was talking to other girls, other girls talking to me, and a girl next to him introduced herself and started rubbing my knee in the same place. So it was like the AMOG set a precedent for the group to open up to me.

Even when someone puts their whole arm around you tightly or gives you a forceful pat on the back, you know they're trying to AMOG/cockblock, but they still justify their actions as being friendly. I wouldn't recommend trying to offend or humiliate guys like this, as it creates unnessary violence, but to just ditch him or get him to leave. If its a douchebag claiming territory over a girl you've opened (his gf, sister, friend), I would just walk away, and if threats are made, call police. Someone's trying to hijack your sarge, freeze him out, just take her somewhere else, move around, switch locations, etc. If the AMOG follows you around, the girl you are with will probably tell him to quit stalking.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:41 pm 
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if a guy steps in set and puts his arm round me ....should i headbutt him or just engage friendly ...i had this the other night .....when i opened a girl and he tryed to fuck my shit up ....but he pissed off after a while when he told the girl.....were friends and i said i have no idea who he is ....looked like a right plum ...
lol... He obviously got offended.

I personally think it's best to sincerely apologize and be regretful of what you did...

Or, you can do the other way around and try to escalate a rivalry...

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thanks for your answers everyone .....i left out a little ..when he put his arm around me ...i instantly switched it around .....i didnt think about doing this which i guess is a good thing ....i been trying to put the blueprint decoded stuff into action.as a newbie im founding it challenging ....but concepts keep clicking in place each time i go out .....


.someone mentioned being unreactive .......correct me if I'm wrong ...but if i was in the situation i described and i was reacting... ...id be thinking to myself ..." who is this motherfucker" this would be reacting ...but instead just as tyler puts it.... be in the moment .." let it go where it wants".........

another thing is i recently had click in my head is ..where you place your attention like where your focus is ( where your eyes are looking)....i found that in the clubs my attention is all over the place ....instead of just bam...on target ......i guess what I'm learning is that nothing is wrong with me ...i just got to adjust where im looking to put it simply ..shift my attention to whats important and leave out whats not.....


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