Is this possible? I seem to have a hard time following the blueprint of the M3 model. On the other hand, if I just "be myself" and do things intuitively, I seem to get closer to girls. I tried negging my crush... A verbal neg ended up with her being offended. Back when I was just being "friendly and nice", I managed to get closer to her physically. I was practically touching her hands almost any chance I get... When I became too self-conscious about my game, things were a shitload tougher...

Seriously, if you guys were to give some "simple, not so complicated tips" as to how I can seduce a chick, what would they be?

How do I systematically use "kino" and what exactly is "kino"?

Thanks guys.

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Guys, please, help me on this one.

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There's only one way under high heaven to make anybody do anything... Yes, just one way. That is, by making the other person wanna do it!

are you seriously asking is NON-MM Pick Up exists?


Look at those 4 guys at the top. NONE of them use MM (at least not majorly).



What is it with so many people thinking mystery and style are like the only ways to learn this shit?

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Try google searching the Emotional Progression Model... Read it enough to absorb the structure of it and then move on. You don't have to do things word for word but having a bit of structure, or knowledge of structure will probably give you some idea of 'how' the interaction is going. Do whatever works for you, that's my advice.

Ok when you said she responded badly to your neg, it could be a number of things. Personally I only use negs if the girl had a bitch shield, if you neg her to much after she has lowered it she will think your mean,

And I don't use models, I like to me my self... Like you said I hate being restricted to routines and each time I recieve a new ioi I award her with an increase in the amount of kino I give her. Use what works for you if you like the model use but if you don't forget it

Kino is basically touching her and you use it to build comfort until you can kiss/ close her and you don't want to just go in for a kiss without building kino, you basically have to build up her emotions until she's ready

Hopes this helps.