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Its like beeing a child and standing in front of the big candystore window. You see all this candy but you dont know how to get it. It becomes your ultimate goal. But after you learn how to get all that candy and you eat it, you start questioning your primal goal. Was all that spended time worth it so i could just eat so much candy i could handle instead of just useing it to something more important?

[ Johnny B ]

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Fear has a large shadow, but he himself is small. ~Ruth Gendler

Agreed.

Good analogy. I agree with you on this one. Oh and to add one more log on this fire...eventually you get tired of the same old thing over and over again. With maybe the exception of pizza. LOL.

Eventually after having all the candy you want it gets old after a while and you don't want "candy" anymore or at least not nearly as often. The first time you are able to get the "piece" of candy it's great because of the anticipation and what it took to obtain it. After some time you get tired of candy and become indifferent to it.

Thanks for posting.
I completely agree!

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Valid point

I don't think Jsmooth was trying to criticize in the traditional way we view criticizing. I think a lot of guys have made a lot of valid points in this thread. There are an abundance of women out there and PUA is something that teaches men how to get all of those women, of course it is going to be popular. True, some people may be questioning others' aspirations of getting lots of women. But the guys doing the questioning have been there before, they got into the candy store and ate all the candy (like the analogy above), and they realized it wasn't what they actually wanted. People say they want validation, popularity, and many other things, but usually those are just meaningless words to cover up for what they really seek. After so long, people find out that 1000 lays does not make them fill fulfilled, and that is because it wasn't the validation or popularity they were seeking in the first place. Then they have to embark on another journey to figure out what it is they truly want. Or, if they do know now, they must forget their old ways and learn how to achieve their new, true aspirations. JSmooth was merely trying to say "he look guys, I have been exactly where you have been and I wanted the same things as you, but now that I achieved them, I learned that it isn't fulfilling and it probably will be the same case for you. So save yourself the time and the heartbreak and rethink why you are here and what you hope to accomplish."



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So true, but has already been said most people who cometo these boards are worse than AFCs, and for them they often have below social intelligence. They will continue t post hereuntil they realise the next step in their journey. The community is essential for them in their jourey.

Again, the Game of Pickup is like a man who is a pickup artist seeking the finest of women who, having found that one woman of great value, he went and gave up all that he had to be with her.

We can enjoy trading around pearls for only so long, till we want to settle down with the one special pearl that means the world to us

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Hammer on the NAIL!

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'Most truths are so naked that people feel sorry for them and cover them up, at least a little bit.'
JSmooth hasn't covered one bit ... respect ! and thank you

Jez

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“A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes.”

I see your point and it does make me wonder . . . Do we ever really know what we want? Does the 7 year old kid meditate on his soul using his inner wisdom and then go, "That's it! A tree house!" If not, then where did he gain his excitement over a platform on a tree? And if the 7 year old's aspirations for a tree house was not generated through pure mindfulness, does it make the fulfillment of that aspiration any less worthy than Buddha's achievement of Nirvana or Jesus' great sacrifice? In my mind, the answer is a simple no.

We do live in a constant flux of influencing and being influenced but only the "self" can truly come to a realization. I'm in no position to tell JP that his recent discovery is a meaningless step in self evolution just as he is in no position to tell others that their aspirations are less worthy.

I applaud JP's self discovery and the level of peace it seems to have brought him. However, I don't view this milestone in his life to be any different than the joy and self fulfillment a kid feels after making out with a chick for the first time using the dollar bill trick. He's got chemicals flowing through his brains and dick that are absolutely real. He says this is what he wants and this is good enough for me. I applaud it. The real killer is when the constant pushing and pulling bombards a human being enough to think, "Shit . . . I don't want anything. What I want isn't worthy . . . "

And thank you.

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I have just one thing to say. Who the heck is JP?

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My bad . . . only 3 alphabets off . . .

Hey, I didn't say this to you directly yet but . . . congrats on your new found awareness.

Much appreciated sir.

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nice post Jsmooth.

What fascinates me is this, after reading these replies it seems that most people on this forum ARE in fact here in order to seek validation by LEARNING HOW TO SCREW AS MAY WOMEN AS THEY CAN. I knew there were a few, but this seems like a fairly forum-wide movement. This really points out the fact that a lot more people on this forum than I initially thought need BASIC direction in life rather than 'pick up' skills. They are really here for the wrong reason.

For those of you that didnt get much in high school and are now trying to make up for lost time by going on a fuck-mission for the first time...

The goal of screwing as many random women as you can is an unhealthy one, it will fulfill NOTHING in your life. What WILL fulfill is being able to sleep with a girl that really MEANS something to you. Life is all about meaning. Is the sex really that good with someone youre not that into? In my experience its terrible! (and ive had my fair share). This is the very reason I stopped sleeping with random girls where my intention was to f*ck them for the sake of f*cking them. At the end of it you will realize it has no meaning at all. I eventually found that it does nothing for me emotionally (sometimes even physically!), and I can guarantee that its doing nothing for you either (even though you may think it is now). I'm talking random lays where you KNOW you are not attracted to her and you would never take it any further than a quick and dirty shag. ie. youre purely doing it for another notch on your bed post. You know, one of those 'kick her out the next morning' kind of girls (man this disgusts me).

Being able to approach and seduce the girl that really does it for you, and then being to get her into bed for a meaningful time (more than once) now that is fulfillment to me. This is what puts a REAL smile on my face. Sleeping with the girl that you would choose out of all girls at that point in time, is success.