Pua's in a Globelised recession



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:27 pm 
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KristallNachte and BadolzoN, please do not sidetrack the thread with a personal argument, use PM's if you wish to continue.
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has anyone got examples of how they HAVE been effected by the global recession?
Well, it's pretty obvious we can't afford gas and expend money to businesses as much.

Relationships are based on fun, and some fun can only be obtained with money.

If your game is strong enough, though, money won't be an issue - but it CAN cause logistical issues.

For example, having your own place is very convenient, same with buying a cab for her drunk friends so she doesn't have to be the designated driver.

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Hey guys hey,

I've been going out 2-3 times per week recently and I noticed something weird about night scene in Boston. Maybe it's just a local phenomena, but I decided to share.

Usually I go to a dance club on Thursday and do several bars/lounges on Friday. Saturdays are spread 50/50 between clubs and bars. I am not a good dancer, so, following an advice of MPUAs, I tend not to game on a dance floor. My perfect environments are bars and lounges. However, I noticed that bars and lounges aren't doing so well recently. I remember that one place I often go to two years ago was a hot spot. It has a dance floor but also has a huge lounge area - so it is a perfect sarging ground, but whenever I come there these days - it's half empty! And it's not just one night - I have enough data points to draw the conclusion that the place isn't doing so well recently.
Another observation I made: it seems like very often when THERE ARE people in a bar or a lounge - they know each other. It appears that for some reason it became very popular to organize school or corporate get togethers in lounges. "Why is this bad?" - you may ask. Well, it makes a lot more difficult to figure out social dynamics in the venue. For example: you may see a perfect 3-set there standing by themselves. You count: ONE... You look around - no potential interrupts, TWO... you are trying to make an eye contact, THREE - you go in, open, in 30 seconds bunch of people comes up - they apparently know each other - targets lose attention and it's just too early to do "how do you guys all know eachother"-gambit - you roll off - everyone saw it - DLV.
It also seems like m/f ratio is A LOT greater than 1 (for math-challenged - more guys than girls :)) ) in bars and lounges, which makes it a lot harder to sarge simply because girls get "over-approached" a lot sooner - when they get into this state - to my opinion it is impossible to game them. The only thing PUA can do is to go very direct, radiate confidence and just take a chance.

Clubs, however, are doing pretty good. Good clubs. Girls come in - there are clear sets. Lots of targets. Few to no interrupts. But it's a freaking dance club!!! You can't run routines, you can't open conventionally, you can't tell stories or show magic tricks. This is why even Mystery says : "Stay away from the dance floor - its a trap" (MM book).

Something changed, and what really puzzling to me is: Boston is a college town. Population of the city of Boston nearly doubles in the fall, yet, I don't see these students partying in lounges and bars as I used to!
A year ago lounges were packed with people and I remember bitching about it (I had a gf back then and was a real AFC)

I've discussed this problem with my wingmen and the conclusion we collectively came up to is: it probably has to do with the economy. You see, when you go to a lounge - you go there to interact with people. You come with friends and chat with them but on a back of your mind is a thought to meet someone new. You don't go to a lounge to dance - if you wanted to dance you'd go to a club. But now when money is short it seems like people need a little more motivation to go out. For girls to get all dolled up, drive to downtown, park to just stand in the lounge and communicate - is not enough of a reason anymore to. Especially given the fact that drinks and entrance fee cost almost the same in lounges and clubs. But clubs provide a lot more reasons. Go out with girls to dance justifies the money and effort spent - even though they still want to meet someone new.

So how does that affect me? Well I obviously can't be very productive in lounges due to the reasons, stated above. Clubs... Well at this point I have to really improve my dancing skills. My game is tight enough to manipulate social dynamics and generate attraction in the club and get girls to start giving me IOIs and approach invitations, coming closer to me, but I can't approach them cause music is loud and everyone is dancing.
So I made a plan to take some salsa classes as I don't see any other way to sarge in Boston. (besides the day game of course)


Question to all PUAs: do u see similar tendencies in your cities? If you are from Boston, do you agree with me?


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A little elaboration on the over-approached set: my experience suggests that the game is very much affected by the average (arithmetical mean) attention span length of the gamed set. I have also observed that attention span of a person decreases as number of times they were approached goes up. I.e. the more times a girl was approached - the shorter attention span she has.
If I were to graph it - I'd draw something similar to y=1/x; where y is the attention span length and x - number of time a girl was approached.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:43 pm 
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This recession hasn't affected my game really at all. But i game most of my girls at byob house party's so i dont really spend money. Im guessing its alot different for the guys that like to go to bars/clubs and buy drinks ect.

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Wow guys thanks.
I made that thread to make a point that the world we live in is a fragile place and everyone who has posted has added.
Even if some just entertained lol....


Thanks and keep posting on my thought and argumentative pravocing posts...

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oh don't comment on my spelling...am not interested in it


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Wow guys thanks.
I made that thread to make a point that the world we live in is a fragile place and everyone who has posted has added.
Even if some just entertained lol....


Thanks and keep posting on my thought and argumentative pravocing posts...

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oh don't comment on my spelling...am not interested in it


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Almost every positive vote you have is accompanied by "where are those vids?"

And I checked the thread and you were REQUIRING to be Rep'd before providing the content.

Thats exploitive.


And it has little to do with 'getting people to follow' you since most everything I hear about you is negative.

and that '-' was a minus sign. Meaning negative respect.

You need to learn to carry yourself better. You have 11 negative reps for being a dick or douche bag.

Hell, I tend to be a pretty big dick on here and I have none, that's gotta say SOMETHING about you going a bit overboard.
Uh, that none just turned to three! Congratulations. :P


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