Hi ! I am just your average, ordinary, every day ... loser.

The problem i am experiencing is this, i have been following the community the last 3-4 years and have read most stuff out there. And not once have i been able to go out on my own and try this stuff for real. I feel like something is stopping me, i dont think its AA when i am "forced" to interact with cute women or girls , i do ok, am even able to "game" them to some extend. Thats where my last 2 and only LTR came from. But actually go out and sarge , visit nightclubs, the works, that is where i just stop.

Yet i want to aquire the abillity to seduce women, and realise i need to get my but out the door to do that.

All help appreciated

Stop waiting for a perfect moment to go out. Just do it. It's that simple..

Just go for the sake of going. Hell, say hi to a few people if you like. Get used to being in nightclubs. Just have fun, who cares.


Why linger around in a situation you don't accept. That's stupid. Take action.

I would say its insecurity that you have. It looks like you don't want to be seen around a lot of people. Look in the mirror and look at yourself, this will tell you do you want to live in that same lifestyle you are living, because no one is perfect.

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Yes , i think its definately partly feeling insecure.

I want this whole aspect of passiveness when it comes to women out of my life. I want more then just waiting till the next one stumbles across me. But going out in night clubs and "look" interesting i dunno if i can pull that off , and will end up just looking silly. Still its not like i dont try ... but when i go out i just shut down, overly aware of myself. I dunno , i freeze up or something, i end up looking like the guy that doesnt belong there.

You seem to have a hard time with night clubs. Then don't go to night clubs. Walk around in malls, shops and whatnot. Make small talk with women untill you are comfortable enough.

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Hire a bouncer to work your door in Friday nights. Instruct him not to let you in unless you have an HB8 or better with you...

LOL , that would probably work. I wonder howmany nights i will have to stay out in the cold tough.

As to evryone else , thx. Maybe i should be taking babysteps. i was also suggested creating an alternate persona, anyone know how to start on that ?

eh, can easily backfire. Fragmenting your personality can get.....complicated....

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Hi Thomas

I'm with KristallNachte on the alternate persona. Instead of creating an alternate persona, why not just change your current persona? I mean I'm not the guy I was 5 years ago and I'm not the guy I will be in another 5 years. When I'm faced with a situation I don't like I ask myself 'What would Tom Cruise do' then I (1,2,3, deep breath) just do it. You get used to it eventually and that becomes your persona.

With regards to going out, I think you're afraid of failing. It's all part of the game. Sometimes I don't feel like going out but I've got good mates who will drag me out then I push myself to approach. Either I bomb-out because I'm not in the mood or I run a great set that gets me in the mood. The important part is that when I really don't want to I still push myself because if I bomb I still learn something.

Get used to failing because the guys at the top have probably gone through more failures than anyone.

If you don't like your situation. TAKE ACTION






Stop acting like a dumbass, you know what to do.

thanks guys

Try to get inspired in everything around you, just go out for a walk, dont go out to meet women aye... the second you go out for women your mind iwll go crazy

hope it helps braz
i dont think thats helping him aye, your just being a dick

Oh noes, i hurted someone's feelings ?


Come on people, you know what to do damn right.

You've been aware of this for 3 - 4 years without taking action. I know its easy for some of you to say just go out there and get on with it and of course there is definite truth in that.

However is it also a Fear of Success holding you back? I believe this is something that has got in my way on and off in the past, though luckily I'm working on breaking through it at the moment. But after such a long time period this does sound like something that COULD be causing a problem.

And yes get used to 'failure', though I use that for lack of a better word. I'd say it sounds far better to say setbacks. You just need to look at what you did wrong and fix it. You've at least read a lot about it so that could be some basis. Just try not to be a robot and come up with your own style.

you need the vibes man, just get some music on. Alternatively, remember that you will have zero chance of getting any hb if u don't go out and at least make an effort.