Rite guys some of you will know me from my posts and others will not. I have to admit ive hit a Sarging lull. Have any of you hit the same mament where you are good but want to be better, but struggle?

Put it this way i dont believe in a HB10(No women is perfect) So on my scale i can score the vast majority of 7s and 8s but 9s are still shaky. I do small magic tricks my opening and mid game is solid but my closing is with 9s is still not up to scratch neither is my kino.

Regards, Saint

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I totally feel you here mate..
I'm Stuck too.

I think its natural to hit these roadblocks.
Back up take a second and ram the shit out of the block.

Thats the way i think.
Good luck!
Cheers.

Ta much buddy ive done just that been working like crazy this weekend but i took the time i had and went out for an hour and got 6numbers and had a couple fails so going to work on some specific areas for the rest of this month

Regards Saint

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Yo both are scared of hb9's. You both know 7 and 8's are replaced with ease. Which gives you some room to fuck around with her a bit and not take things too serious=giving her 99% of you while keeping the 1% yourself, so to speak.
When you're interacting with a 9 your mind slips back into the 'fuuuuck, i dont want to lose her' so you freeze up and do all kinds of stupid shit.



Anyway, that's what i was doing for a while. Now I simply don't give a fuck about how she looks.

It's called the learning model. Typical learning curve would be you getting some knowledge and applying it rising in the "knowledge" or "expertise" department. Then you regress slightly (somethimes due to overanalysing what you are doing right) and plateau. After the plateau you either loose interest and your knowledge decreases or you find a way to hit that upward slope again. Ways to hit that slope again would be benchmarking (comparing with others), trying something new, getting outside opinion, perserverence can also lead to a rise again if you can be critical of yourself.

Good luck!

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Thanks alot guys your posts realy help!

Jav i totaly get what you mean so im going to work on that

TheJ Ive seen that sort of thing in psychology textbooks, and it seems to fit.

So as im at this stage does andyone wish to give me some challanges to try and ill post reports to you?

Regards, Saint

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just do anything to push yourself outside your comfort zone. you know your comfort zone better than anyone else....so you should set the challenges.

Well i dunno realy what to do ive pushed most comfort zones ive gone out wearing wierd and wonderfull things, ive approached girls already getting chatted up, if used bizzare openers and worked to save the set. I Just dunno what else to do?

Regards Saint

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If i were you, id try doing somthing stupid, that is to say, do somthing where you KNOW you wont get her number. maybe going in tandem and fighting your wing for her (let him know you're going to do this before) then approach the same hotness level of girl (no matter what it was, can be ugly as hell or really hot) solo and see how you do. then you can see just how good you are and what you can work on. to goal is to become good enough to win every time you go in tandem. this is the only situation i would og in tandem aswell - when trying to get better.

feel free to PM me

Happy gaming!

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Lol i do that all the time lol if i get bored in a set ill go and jump in with my wing, however i know when he is into a set before because its always discussed. Thanks anyway

Regards Saint

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i dont mean join your wing in a set, i mean appraoch a 1 set, at the same time as your wing.

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based on your above claim im not sure why you want to be given a 'crazy' challenge. your confidence sounds up to scratch as it is....you simply need to work on closing as you say, so focus on that specifically.

when you say your closing is not up to scratch, could you elaborate? (give an example)...do you get rejected on closing? what sort of closing? or do you not even get a chance to attempt to close etc.

Sometimes we have to let go of a great part of us, so we can take a even greater part away.

Id start by dropping the rating system, and trying to see women for what they are.

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After a lull comes the storm !!!

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I'd say, talk to an HB9 as if you're qualifying her.

When I talk to 10s, I treat them just as bad as I treat HB 7s or HB6s because I know they're good looking but do they have anything to offer mentally?

Look at ANY girl you're picking up as no outcome.

Don't EXPECT yourself to get her, always treat the situation as if you're just there to have fun, kino, and MAYBE get with her. (your mission should be FOR SURE to get with her, but you shouldn't project that in any way.)

Just be that fun guy, treat her like she's your little sister, and if she says anything don't let it affect you.

If your little sister said "Oh those shoes are ugly" you wouldn't care.

Same with ANY girl.

Man, think about it this way, if a girl is pretty, she must be dumb, and vice versa.

So that will always have you thinking you're above her, aka not so nervous.

I'm not nervous around hot girls, because I always look as if there is something wrong with them, lowering their value to me, and setting me in the mood to do stuff I normally wouldn't.

Kind of like think everyone is in their underwear thing.

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