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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:20 pm 
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I have a "problem". My friend with who I go in clubs with is good looking and always get a girl making a move on him...Every time, a girl will touch his ass, or give him a kiss on the cheek ect. But he don't know how to close...he try to act cool but the girl just get bored and go away because he don't do anything to attract the girl. I think it's because he doesn't have a lot of girls friends so he doesn't feel confortable arround them. It tooks him 1month to talk to a girl (in real life) with who he was chatting with every day...

Anyway, the problem is when I am with him, girls don't look at me. He keeps screwing up with every girl so it kind of make me mad. If he scores with a girl in my mind I will be able to approch her girls friends (of the girl he just scores) but it never happen. When I am not with him, it's way easier to approch girl because I know he would not "steal" my target. Even if I am with him he don't do that, we have rules, but the girl will go for him anyway. Sometimes I go make turn on clubs to see who I know (I know a lot of people) so I always find someone to talk to, but he always follow me.

What should I do? I don't want to talk with him about this because he know what is his problem but I don't think he is interested to learn how to be a PUA. I want to go in clubs with him but what I do to be seen by girls and to be able to use his good looking and my "good talking"?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:35 pm 
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you could step in, and while he's still doing good, get introduced to friends.

seriously.

are you just standing aside and watching during all this?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:42 pm 
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he try to act cool but the girl just get bored and go away because he don't do anything to attract the girl.


exactly. little example from personal experience. i am fairly good looking myself....when i was younger (before i knew how to deal with women) i would only get so far with them....girls would think im hot, and let me know it too...i would eventually get chatting to them but only because they pretty much INVITED it. But soon enough i was friend zoned. they found me to be a nice...but...BORING guy i guess. my point? looks play a VERY small part in the process (as youve seen with your friend). in fact your body language, energy and presence alone would probably get more girls looking your way rather than his. Work on this.

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but the girl will go for him anyway.
maybe for the 1st few minutes of interaction if you both approached in the same lame manner, but with all due respect to your friend, after they see that he doesnt have much more to offer than his looks... from that point youre the man, youre the one with the confidence and charisma...they'll go for this over looks any day. i dont care how hot a particular women is, do you actually enjoy talking to her if she has no personality and is as boring as hell? to be honest i wouldnt even want to sleep with her! there are way more better options out there than her. i know Mystery has is infamous saying 'beauty is common, but whats really rare is a great personality and outlook on life etc etc'...now im not a fan of mystery, but he simply teaches this phrase to his students in order to get them laid, but the phrase itself has truth to it!

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I want to go in clubs with him but what I do to be seen by girls and to be able to use his good looking and my "good talking"?
i wouldnt go about it in this way...its too complicated to try reel them in with his looks and then to transition the focus over to you each time. its also a bit lame...why do you need his looks to get girls? all you need is yourself. Besides, if he is not PUA orientated then he wont be a good wing anyway, he wont understand the concepts and mechanics and you will be worse off with him anyway. therefor you are better off sarging girls alone, or find a new wing. nothing wrong with going out with the guy, he is your friend afterall...but approach girls alone (not because girls will choose him if you approached together, but rather because he has more chance of screwing it up for you in many other ways...with what he says to them etc). soudns selfish, but this is the truth...until he decides to improve/develop himself he will continue to get the same results as he is now.

..and mate...do not think so low of yourself to believe that you need someone elses looks to get women. you have more than enough at your disposal as it is.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:22 pm 
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you could step in, and while he's still doing good, get introduced to friends.

seriously.

are you just standing aside and watching during all this?
Not really, he screw up very fast so I don't have time to do something. :P Last week-end a girl gave him a kiss on his cheek and told him he was cute...he just walked away on the dancefloor... A night a was able to go for the friend of the girl who was making a move on him but I think I neg her too fast. After that, she started to dance with the girl who was making a move on my friend. So my friend was standing there with 2 girls dancing together "for him" I guess...but well, of course nothing happened. In this case it was my fault, but it just to show you how girls really go him. :P
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i wouldnt go about it in this way...its too complicated to try reel them in with his looks and then to transition the focus over to you each time. its also a bit lame...why do you need his looks to get girls?
Not really, but girls will go for him when I am with him. My best nights were I went to clubs/partys and we split up (it was with others friends). When I am alone it's way easier (not always working, but I learn from my mistakes :P). And he ALWAYS follow me...I don't want to be rude with him but it's so "lame" like you said. :P Sometimes when I go away from him and he realise it he will be looking for me.
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if he is not PUA orientated, then he wont be a good wing anyway, he wont understand the concepts and mechanics
He still want to pick up girls. Sometimes I talk to him what I learned on books and videos but he is not the kind of person that will think about "learning".

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mate...do not think so low of yourself to believe that you need someone elses looks to get women. you have more than enough at your disposal as it is.
It's not a a self-esteem problem, it just I thought we can do something about it to be both winners. :P


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:32 pm 
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He still want to pick up girls. Sometimes I talk to him what I learned on books and videos but he is not the kind of person that will think about "learning".
so go alone, get proof it works by increasing the number of girls in your life, show him how it works and he'll be interested once he sees results.

ever try mildly ditching him in the club to go open girls?

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