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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:56 am 
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It seems as though you have a plethora of sexual hangups that have been troubling your mind for a generous portion of your life. The truth is, women want to have sex. They want to be seduced. They want to be "led astray to make behavioral choices they would not have made" if they were being judged for it.
We should all live in a commun and own nothing. We should be liberated freely to have intercourse with anyone we want whenever we want. Jealously won't exist because we can share everything.

On problem. Jealousy does exist.
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If you aren't too keen on art, you're in the wrong place. You see, artists use lies to tell the truth. Yeah, I totally ripped that line from V for Vendetta. You look at a painting by an artist and feel the same emotions that the artist was trying to communicate. However, the painting is, by your standard of reasoning, a lie because it is delivering the emotion through a medium that is not a direct representation of the emotion itself. Some artists (the best ones) find the most honest way to express themselves in order to express their art. It's never seems to be good enough for closed-minded folk, though. :wink:
So the artist elevates emotion though visual stimulus and persuasion. You consider yourself as an artist because Mystery called himself an artist. You are using your tools to paint something that wont last.

This place makes us feel good, but there is something wrong with it. You know it. I know it. We all know it. We just don't understand what it is or why it's there. Why are we so addicted to this forum? Can't there be a healthier way of recieving help.

It's like we learn a routin. At first it seems wrong and awkward. Then we use it and it works. So we use it again, and again. Then it doesn't seem wrong and awkward. We forget how we learned it and it becomes a part of who we are.

So maybe it is O.K. to sleep with a women. Maybe I should learn this game. Or I can be an average frustrated chump. I can give the power to the female and see what happens.

This website is controlling my mind, but most of you are right. Maybe I will just become a pick up artist since I can't seem to get off of here. All I do is fucking type here. Type here. Type here.

I am upset that I don't have the strenght to accept being in the friend zone. I don't know about this. It just doesn't seem right. Something is wrong with turning a women into buttons. My values are in conflict. If I remove my values, then I won't know how to have a long-term relationship. I have been programmed to get married for over 10 years. I lack in intiating intercourse. Women lack in intiating intercourse. So we go for long periods of time without intercourse.

Women won't want to be my friend if I am out to get them for pussy. You think they will want to hang around me if they feel manipulated? You are wrong. Do you have any female friends? Any female friends that you would marry at the first opportunity?
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Oh, and check out this post: you-can-run-but-you-cant-hide-vt25629.html
I like it. You said exactly what I said. When are you going to get married?

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I have shitloads of female friends a lot of them know I would probably nail them but meh some are just friends but at the end of the day if I liked a girl enough to marry her she wouldn't be a friend I would have made a move on her.


Sounds to me like because you are too scared to make a move and have no clear morals in your head (you contradict yourself constantly) you collect women that you would like to sleep with but instead just end up as friends. Thats gotta suck man, having your failures rubbed in your face every time you hang out with your 'friends'. I would feel a little annoyed too if that happened to me but I would have enough confidence and belief in myself to accept that it was my failure and no one elses.

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Any female friends that you would marry at the first opportunity?
Dude... That is fucked up. There are so many things wrong with that question I don't even know where to start, man.

I'll just say this: It seems you have a lot of dogmatic preconceived notions about what a "PUA" is and does based on little experience, a lot of reading, and plenty of misguided introspection.

I think you have more things to learn in terms of what a "friend" really is, what the purpose of art really is (it's not permanence), and how your intellectual ability to rationalize things paired with your ego is actually hindering your development as a fully enriched human being by preventing you to live life for all it has to offer.

Values are very important, but don't confuse values for things that are motivated by ego.


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When are you going to get married?
Marriage isn't the ultimate goal.

To be happy is. If along the way, being happy means marriage, good for you. But until you're at that point you shouldn't even be thinking of marriage as a target.

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magnum u dumbshit.


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Honesty is speaking truth and creating trust in minds of others. Honesty implies a lack of deceit. A statement can be strictly true and still be dishonest if the intention of the statement is to deceive its audience.

Deception is the act of convincing another to believe information that is not true, or not the whole truth as in certain types of half-truths, or through omission.
Deception involves concepts like distraction and/or concealment.
In many cases it is difficult to distinguish deception from providing unintentionally wrong information. One of the reasons for this is that a person or an entire organization may be self-deceived.
WTF are you on about? I thought the subject was list "list a value that YOU find important"

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I just posted the definition of Honesty. Does it ring true to you? Do you follow it?
Do you just start these threads as an excuse for being confrontational?


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WTF are you on about? I thought the subject was list "list a value that YOU find important"

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I just posted the definition of Honesty. Does it ring true to you? Do you follow it?
Do you just start these threads as an excuse for being confrontational?
Let's all stop getting our personal panties in a bunch. It's fine to have discussion and intellectual argument and counter argument.

Stop making it personal or I will lock this thread. We are slowly sliding away from thought provoking and into silly insults and trolling.

Back to the subject of this thread: The value I find important is having "value."

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Let's all stop getting our personal panties in a bunch.
I gave up on panties a long time ago :)

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Ok everyone, so I'm a newbie and am not down with the etiquette of these forums but isn’t this way of track? Surely this new topic deserves its own thread like “Morals and Deeper meaning of the Game” and if you don’t wanna get into it, or can’t be arsed having a confrontation with a fellow PUA in text, just quit the Dick measuring competition and get over it!

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