I seen a post by chef, so kudos goes to him for putting my mind in motion.


So the debate is are older/mature women more or less subseptable to game.

Break down:

Mature women have had the life expereince, that makes many men beleive they may have toughend to men in general. Firstly we aren't men in general. If you are reading tis you are in the top 5% of men in the world. OR you a geek that sits reading posts and never sarges.

ANYWAY! ...... My first point is opening as i beleive this will always be the deciding factor of any set in the world. This is as you know when she decides your value and if your tribe is something appealing.

Mature women in opening: They are easy to open!
Why? After being hit on in a direct manner in a club enviroment for years and years and then going past the peak of there sexual arousel hieght. They will be leasier and less negitive when opened in an indirect manner.

Why? Because at 20 a 10/10 would get more men following her round "Can i get you a drink." than at 40! Thats just gentics and society. Am not even making a case for that one its obvoius.

So she would be easier to open at 40. And more life expereince means she would feel more at ease to answer, say an opinion opener. She also has the comfortability of knowing she is safe in her enviroment.

They are easier than younger women, and have better conversation skills. OR talk way more.
Although last night a 5 set i was in one of the women started strking my boots and then went on to stiff her hands to get the smell of the boots.... creepy..


verdict: Use older sets as a neg to the hot girls, higher socail proof and pre selection.
They are your freind. and your teachers of the female kind.

(All written is based on the ideas works and theories of the best, all dynamics invloved are related to the people who made it happen.
Admiration to jeffries,deangelo,mystery,style.)

all ideas and comments are great.
go for it guys

Interessting point of discussion;
In the Netherlands there are clubs dedicated to 25y+ people, MILFs tend to hangout there. Believe me my experience shows... that they dont want a whole game, for those joints a simple "How ya doing" will get you laid. So yes AFCs even for you guys theres hope .

I don't know whats the whole deal there, thats yet something i have to find out.
Guess they dont want the complicated lifestyle, they just want to get laid, well that can save you loads of money or not .

Guess every country/city has multiple of these clubs. But when a girl is that easy does this make you a PUA, in my definition it doesnt.

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For some reason I find MILFs immensely attractive, would like to have a go with at least one or two sometime. Therefore I have made a decision at this second to move to Holland!

Anyway for good milfage one cannot go wrong with Kate Garraway imo.

Anyone know anywhere which would be recommended for picking up to the UK resident?

there are set groups and dynamics when you are in certain clubs.

Liverpool is my stomping ground and now having a group of four, teaching and gaming my game is getting very good.
I find that older women are just great to talk to. although watch out for the ones whole bend down and touch your shoes!

I have many brillaint places i already know.

not sure why but I often get MILFs coming on to me... often they are looking for my approval saying I'm such a handsome young man and could be their son...

not sure why but I often get MILFs coming on to me... often they are looking for my approval saying I'm such a handsome young man and could be their son...

You lucky bastard! Ah well just gotta find them now!

Loads of Crazyness here. Don't know where you located in the UK but you can always sarge here. Might even provide some assistance if you desire .

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Well quite close to Holland actually but I'm not a big one for meeting people of the net alone, plus I'm a student and broke!

I disagree. You can still use a direct opener on an older woman. And in my experience most older women actually appreciated it more. The thing was I did a direct opener that was respectful. A lot of guys that used direct openers on these girls used less respectful openers. This is just my opinion by why even bother with a indirect opener? Girls know you are interested in her when you approached her, why else did you approached her?
That really depends on how well the girl looks at age 40 compare to a 20 something. I seen smoking hot 40 year olds that had 20 something guys and 30 to 40 something guys chasing them. But then again I live in an area where older women go for younger guys.
I certainly agree that they are easier to open as they are less likely to put up with the games 20 something girls play.
I am not sure if I would say they are easier than some 20 something girl. Tho I would agree they are easier to talk to for sure.

Agreed. Most of the stuff I learned about females came from 40 something moms.

Thanks Jurpa.

All imput is good imput.
Could you add to the post, i am interested in how you would see a mature womens view on a younger man in modern society??

breaking down my stuff to play devils advicate, naughty naughty boy..
ha. tut tut...

hah! Poor excuse

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