Hey whats up,

Im pretty new to the whole PUA community
i picked up both the mystery method and the game on audio book and have been listening to them when i run at night . Im about halfway through both of em so im not a complete newb in terminology .


Im not a bad looking guy, and im in shape.
my myspace link is /chucklieb to see what im working with.
(i dont have 5 posts to be able to post the real ms link)

my problem isnt confidence , i could walk up to any girl and say what ever you wanted me to say . I just have nothing to talk about, im a really intresting guy but, i found its better not to talk about myself and with a new girl bc it comes off as arrogant & that leaves me with nothing . i like the idea of pick up , i think i just need some really solid daytime routines from open to number close and i could take it from there.


i just cant keep the girl interested long enough with conversation out of nothing.

this is a problem for alot of people i think, but, and especially in the start its easy to get it going.

If you go out at night then try out some of the routines that you can find in both mysterys book, and on here. You'll usually get a good bit of conversation out of them, and if youve got the confidence you say you do there shouldnt be a problem.

Day game is slightly different, as routines that work at night dont always work during the day, because people arent out to socialise, theyre usually doing something. But if you have some good stories, either from experiences at night, or experiences from your ilfe then they can be good, especially if you open with something slightly related to the story.

If not then you can ask about the girl: "So what are you doing today then", and try and get a thread or hook from there.

If you get really stuck just comment about something the girl is wearing, or doing, so make a C+F (cocky funny) comment about her shoes, or her dress sense, not only will it convey confidence, it will also build attraction

Good luck mate

i understand the method as a whole but i guess what i really want is some solid routines, most of my pick-ups are going to be at malls and college.

i dont want to be overwhelmed with the whole pua process and right now i have a pretty clear outline in my head , id perfer to go the route style traveled and first become a great approach artist , because from there i know i can make the rest follow.


the mystery method makes sense , but the routines he leaked were minimal and wouldnt work on day game at a mall what so ever. I look like a jock, im tan and pretty muscular , i dont look like im suppose to be doing magic tricks so thats out .

where can i find some solid day routines.



What are some responses to rejections ? how do you play it cool after that?

yeah i see where your coming from mate
Im in college aswell. When your in college its actually a bit easier, you can just use general banter, and theres alot to talk about, especially if the girl is doing different courses to you.
Malls: if gorls are looking in windows, comment on it, if theyve got loads of bags, comment on it

Im pretty sure theres a day game section on this forum.

As for the magic tricks, if they dont fit in with your style/persona, dont go for it, what works for some people wont work for others, just develop your own style and use what works for you.

Rejection as in when you approach a girl and she blows you out? Just forget it, and move on the the next one, soon you wont get blown out
Or you could maybe try something sorta cocky/funny, my favorite is "oh, tough crowd" and then walk off.

If you get blown out though, there really isnt much you can do, so just move on

rather practice starting natural and flowing conversations with strangers rather than using robotic routines. routines are cheap and fake.

best thing to do imo is to just talk to everyone you see, the more conversational experience you have the more you'll know what to talk about, but if your set on routines try love systems routines