Everytime i see a hb walking around in the club i try and conversate wit her.And once i do i always tell them do they have any kids. They kinda shrug and look down and say yeah but then try to get mad as if to take control and say im a single mother but i take care of my kid and dont need no guy to help me raise him.I neg her alright but not sure if i should do this to milfs or any hb.How do i counter to this.She is already bitter towards guys?Down here in colorado its probly about a10-1 ratio no joke. that a girl don't have a kid unless she's like 18-20.What should i say?

I wouldn't even ask them if they have kids. Once you find out; I'd not neg them on motherhood.

dude, imagine being around here, my age demographic has the most single mothers. yeah, welcome to young adult HELL

If you ask them about their kids/family you should be in the rapport/comfort stage. And by this time you should be ready to experience some sort of emotion because remember Emotion=sex with women. You LET them talk about their kid or their family and then after they are Done you Relate. Very simple and easy. You may not have a child of your own... but you might have a younger sibling or a niece or cousin or maybe you want kids one day. Talk about your connection to them and relate to her and her child. Let her know that although you can't understand exactly, you can get a sense of what she is feeling.

There is nothing wrong with negging a mother. Just don't do it about their kids or motherhood UNLESS it is really C&F and you separate the neg from her child and only to her. Like as follows:

MILF: "And this is Henry."
PUA: "Hey Henry... You are such a handsome young man, You MUST have gotten those looks from your father." Smile and look at her when you say that last part.


Or something like that.

EvoJ

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And besides that... Women with kids are the BEST!! You KNOW they put out!

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yeah for sure thanx for the heads up.

hey dude.. as a general rule of thumb. Stay away from young single mothers as they are over 99% of the time irresponsible, immature, more drama then you want to deal with, and more.

Oh yes I have the same issue of running into girls with a kid but thing is you don't wont to be a dick head and ask them up front. You'll find most of them well tell you they have a kid once your in comfort.
It's true most men in their 20's don't want to deal with a women with kids simply because its some other Chump's kid. Possible drama can occur with crazy baby daddies or they could be unstable mentally.(Not saying there all like that) there's plenty that got their shit together they just made a bad choice of guy.
There is a plus side to a women that has a kid those women seem more willing to give u some nookie. So if you going to do something with these women better let them know up front you don't want no relationship.

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