ye long post...just read it...

been gaming this gal for about 3 weeks...k-closed and fooled around a few days ago...she then became fairly distant for a few days and I felt a LJBF coming on...anyway so i thought fuck it i aint waiting around. lets refer to her as '3 week girl'

we were all out at this club the other night...i knew that '3 week girl' was going to be there too through mutual friends... so i invited another girl i had been gaming to meet me there. lets call this one 'invited girl'.

as soon as 'invited girl' gal rocked up at the club, an acquaintance i know through close friends immediately starts hitting on her ...he is a well-known DJ with plenty of status, resident DJ at most of the top clubs around here, known by many. my wing (who knows him better than i do) walks up to him and says, Vision is actually targetting her by the way)..DJ responds very disrespectfully with 'well may the best man win!'. (this guys game is terrible so i wasnt intimidated, but he does have status big time)

My wing says 'ok fine...DJ vs PUA, its on!'... 5 minutes later i k-closed 'invited girl' in front of DJ...my wing taps DJ on the shoulder, points at myself and the gal while we're making out and shouts out...'DJ vs PUA....PUA WINS!!!'. Now im not telling you this for an ego boost, i thought it was pretty funny and ye it felt good considering this DJ was fairly disrespectful and i ended up blowing him out of the water etc...BUT THEN...i looked up and realized i had kissed 'invited girl' in front of the '3 week girl' , the one which i felt had been distant in the past few days and felt the LJBF coming on.

Found out she was not happy about it at all as she was chatting to my friend in the mean time while i kiss closed 'invited girl' in front of her. Heres the fuck up...'3 week girl' was clearly pissed off so ends up k-closing the DJ. so he kinda 'won' in the end as im into the 3 week girl, not the 'invited girl'. but no-one knows that!

next day i chat to 3 week girl on the phone, she mentions she was not pissed off at all about me kissing 'invited girl' in front of her and that she was telling my friend that her and I should rather be friends. i laughed as i knew she didnt say that to my friend....but thought fuck it if she is too proud to admit it and wants to protect her ego i will go with it...so i said ok well if thats what you told my friend then cool im all for that, lets just be friends! she hesitated and the conversation ended.

now i know for a fact that my friend would not lie about what she told him, she was effected by it big time, she proceeded to say 'fuck fuck fuck!!' while i was kissing this other girl. So i think she decided to turned it 180 degrees as she felt i was about to give her the LFBF speech, especially after i had kissed someone in front of her.

heres the problem..i want this 3 weeks girl.

initially i thought it was a good move k-closing someone esle in front of her...now im starting to think i should have waited a while. thing is, if i had waited for confirmation and for her to issue the LJBF speech i would have lost so much value, so decided that a preemptive strike would be better.

1. do you think i fucked up by kissing that girl infront of her, or do you think it put me in a better position?

funny thing is...we have agreed to be friends...but i know she doestn want that...its simply her pride that wont allow her to admit it. she clearly feels that i made her look like a tosser in front of everyone by kissing that gal in front of her and everyone else....so shes natrually acting like she dont give a fuck...what would you do from here...

if she clearly cares then say sorry. man up and grow some balls, you like the girl and you acted like a prick in front of her.

the way i see it if i'm getting with a girl and she gets with someone in front of my face then she clearly doesn't like me that much.

i told her i didnt mean to do it in front of her and she acted like she didnt care....even though i know she does...she is a hard nut to crack. not much i can say sorry about if she's going to say 'why the hell are you saying sorry i really dont care'.

which is why i have decided to move on as if she cannot be honest about that because of her pride then her loss.

the thing is...if you were in her shoes...i mean if a girl kissed a guy in front of you and you liked her....would you hide the fact that it effected you? or would tell her youre pissed off...on this forum everyones talks about NEVER giving a shit and NEVER show that youre effected...well in this case it could lose you the girl.

Loved the post.
Maybe its because Im a PUA and a DJ.
Instant social value.
Everybody loves the DJ.

True, however one needs have more than just social status after he's k-closed her in order to keep her. Girls will kiss the DJ just so they can go tell evryone that shes 'hooked up with the DJ' for an ego boost...mostly shallow girls will do this. Also, this doesnt mean that there is much attraction there at all...after that first kiss and the girl has had her 'kick', the DJ better have SOME game to actually create that attraction.

...but being DJ and PUA? nice combination indeed mate.

good luck man - thats a tough situation.. im a dj too, i feel somewhat guilty

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This is interesting!

TO help me get over some social confidence issues Ive started just getting up at acoustic and open mic nights around my city! Whils intiailly just to help me get over some confidence issues, its a lot of fun, poeple love it and as you say 'Instant social proof'! Ive even started planning some comedy routines and looking forward tio seeing how it goes!

cambria thats awesome..nothing boosts confidence like having to 'validate' yourself to a few hundred people...another one you could try is public speaking...builds confidence better than anything else on planet earth...can you imagine addressing a crowd of a few thousand people where they are all loving what youre telling them and you KNOW it? its a high nothing else on earth can give you.

Actually you don't need any validation to be truly confident.....

validation maybe the wrong word...lets say....being 'judged'.

im not saying you need to be validated in order to be confident....i was more getting at the fact that if you can get to the point where you are completely comfortable in your own skin while standing up in front of a few thousand strangers who are all judging you at the same time...well that is true confidence. And out of those few thousand people there must be at least 100 HB 10's....now thats a fairly big set

Initially It was validation and confidence boosting I wanted! But now I just use this for social proof! If Im out with people and the opportunity arises that I can get up and have a go I will do it! Theres no nervesnous to it anymore, it is simply a tool for gaining social value, and still a HUGE amount of fun!

If the room is clapping for you at the end of it, it gives you high value! a friend of mine went out over the weekend dressed as a Thunderbird and had a bash on a street performers guitar! a crowd gathered and cheered him on, at least 40 of them taking photos and laughing! He increased his value immensely!

Love it

Cambria

first of all about the original post:
HI FIVE man, you didn't fucked up, you won! and about the girl, if you want her keep reminding her you're "just friends", like its was YOURE choice, but keep gaming her, it will drive her crazy, beside, she knows you can get girls but dint want her although you're gaming her, its the best place you can get a girl, she will want you ... BADLY

second: social proof is perfect, that's how I usually game, I have fun and make a big crowd around me, but actually its more then that, I REALLY enjoy it, I love preforming, and I guess it helps my game too, coz ppl see I'm having fun

overall, good topic, there's no problems discussed and it seems like everyone here loves themselves, who is bdw, the most important person

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

Lets just say its a Good problem to have .

Id say sit down with her and explained the whole situation to her with a perfect arrow towards the DJ that it was all his lame ass pathetic fault .

And say that you knew what your friend said .

and lets just let go of this ego thing cuz i really really like you .

Come clean , your heart will tell you its worthed it ;]

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Sympathy For the Devil .