Rite guys how do you feel about gaming women who have boyfriends. I have personaly hit a brick wall in this area.

I dont know what it is but the amount of taken women im getting i.o.i's from is rising by the day. And im unsure how to proceed. Twice ive done the "decent thing" and backed off but its an almost worse feeling than not approching a girl you like the look of.

What you think?

Saint

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If she is in a happy relationship than I would leave her alone.
Why bother to destroy something good when there is a huge amount of single HBs walking around looking for love.
How would you feel if somene was screwing your hot loving girlfriend when your coming back from work??

[ Johnny B ]

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Hey Saint

In my opinion, it's the job of the boyfriend to keep his girl faithful by being as good a boyfriend as he can possibly be. If these girls are interested in you then their boyfriends aren't fulfilling them and you need to be the guy to do it.

I wouldn't waste my time worrying about the feelings of some guy you're probably never going to meet. If these guys had been better boyfriends then their girls wouldn't look elsewhere.

I dare say that doing 'The Decent Thing' doesn't feel right because as alpha males it's not our concern.

Panache

It's not an easy question, really. My first girlfriend cheated on me, and it hurt so much that I promised myself I would never be the other guy in that equation.

However, if you poke around you'll find a couple of my threads asking how I should proceed with gaming this one girl who just dated me for a week, slept with me (or we tried anyway) and then decided she was serious about the other guy. The only reason I'm going through with it is that I'm relatively sure she does like me better, and their relationship is doomed anyway.

One thing you should ask yourself though: If you do pull a girl from another relationship, how much can you trust her?

Still trying to figure that one out myself...

Call me a misogynist, but I've seen too many women hook up with my friends while wearing their wedding rings to have a very high opinion of women in general. I say it depends on the environment. If you meet her at church you should probably leave it alone. However, if you meet her at a bar, it's fair game. I mean really, what do you think she's there for? And before you start to feel guilty, keep one thing in mind; you are not likely to be the first guy she's cheated on her boyfriend with. If a girl is giving you IOI's at a bar and tells you she has a boyfriend she's most likely just letting you know not to call her and that she'll call you. All that said, be prepared to be F-closing a girl when she starts bawling her eyes out mid-coitus. It happened to me and, unbelievably, when I asked her if she wanted to stop she said no. I felt kinda bad, but she was really hot and obviously a total whore. LOL. sorry... just remembering it and I can't help but laugh. Her boyfriend was saving himself for marriage. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT, ROFL!!!! Sorry, got a little carried away there. Hope this helps you decide.

Happy Hunting,
Pecos

P.S. I have no soul.

I'm going to sound really cold hearted, but having sex with a taken woman is quite enjoyable. Most women are hoes, so its like if a guy is dumb enough to commit to a chick, he needs to learn his lesson. I'm never going into a relationship again. Being a PUA is so much more furfilling. When people realize love doesn't exist, then they will feel like the biggest chumps ever!

Why is it actually easier to take an HB 9 or up from a man than to pick her up single anyways???? Can't really understand that. But its easy sex!!!!! And usually good too!!!!

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If she is in a happy relationship than I would leave her alone.
Why bother to destroy something good when there is a huge amount of single HBs walking around looking for love.
How would you feel if somene was screwing your hot loving girlfriend when your coming back from work??

[ Johnny B ][/quote]

Yea mate i totaly get what your saying, my girlfriend cheated on me after a year (i ended up taking her back and she is now the reason im in the Game lol) However i also strongly believe it was partialy my fault. If i had been less needy and provided more of what she needed then perhaps it wouldnt have happened. Now to add to the dilema i cant stand one of the girls boyfriends, because he is a woman abusing wank. This makes me more tempted does this change it for you?

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In relation to what you guys have said (Im sorry im not quoting) But i agree with bits and pieces from all of you. I feel that yes as males we are not made to be monogomus, with one female, and that thats why we lust over a variety of women at one time. We are built to reproduce with more than one female, as a pregnant woman cannot give us more young and thus to stay in the gene pool we want the greatest chance of having a large family. However the social dynamics have changed in the modern day and we are now left with this argument.

Im definately feeling the chat about it being better whith a taken women as it didnt bother me before, taken women always give it better as they have had more to lose just to get where they are.

Just after i split up with my ex i became a PUA tornado taring up clubs night after night. However now the tables have turned and i enjoy the hunt more and the chat so i suppose i could never get emotionaly attached to a female who i knew was a cheat!

Which leads me on to the other side that says look what i became after my ex cheated on me, and its brutal. So why would i want to put another guy through that?

So i guess its down to how it is going with her partner and how her relationship is. If she is unhappy then i guess your doing her a favour, and if she is happy it wont happen no matter how much you game her?

Saint

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What is there to say? We do live in the OC. What more is there to say?
Environment has nothing to do with it. It can certainly increase the number of girls looking to cheat tho.

Just go with your gut instinct, if it feels wrong, then there's probably a good reason(s) that come to your immediate attention early in the process. Like the example given for location (church vs. club), but like the ^ poster acknowledges keep their intentions in mind...

You can proceed however the hell you like, you're not going to marry them right? What's wrong with giving the girl a temporary escape from her douchebag boyfriend? You don't have to have sex if you don't want, you'll still have fun with the attention she gives you (OKAY, maybe not as much, but still she's choosing to spend her time with YOU). Don't over-think it! It's not irrational for a girl to be more attractive to you than her boyfriend. Afterall, you're a mother fucking PUA!

Thanks again for the posts guys. Yea i believe there are certian places that you can find more impressional young and taken, women, up market cocktail bars and hotel bars and feel the whole game is like that. I know where and when i should go somewhere to find the sorts of women im in the mood for.
I agree with the instinct bit. However my moral compass is way off on the odd occasion. I would like to put forward an interesting development that ive not noticed before. It came about when trying different attitudes and ways of talking to her. I acted more interested with one and less with the other. Now the girl who ive acted more interested in has been much the same with a little more flirting. And the one who i acted less interested with has upped her game on me greatly. So does this point to a slight bias that taken women can get to one male?
What im getting at is has the damage already been done just by sowing the seed of doubt?

Saint

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You guys who are saying it's OK to do suck.. There are plenty of single girls out there, why go and fuck up a relationship, even if it is not working well at that time. Sometimes people make bad decisions when they are out drinking. Unless you have been cheated on, you probably don't know how much it hurts. Sure, I blame the girl for doing it, but I also think, what kind of pathetic guy needs to hit on someone who he knows has a girlfriend when there are heaps of single girls out there.

I have been cheated on twice by the same girl when I was a total pathetic pushover. Yea it hurts, but life goes on and there's better women out there.

You're not fucking up their relationship, some girls will never give in no matter what, and most guys will just let it go if they see reach their first or second brick wall (some might continue; those guys must be the ones you're referring too, but it's an uphill battle and if they want to do it--NOTHING is going to stop them).

And yea, there's some guys who take advantage of drunken women, but don't categorize people who want taken women into that group, those guys are just creeps OR the women really wanted to have a good time (goes both ways). And it's pretty frequent to find out that she has a b/f only by talking to her.

Yea, there's a lot of single women, but it's not like 99.99% of guys are exclusive to taken women lol.

The ones that do succeed with taken women, well have you ever considered that their boyfriend is the "pathetic guy" instead? There's douchebag boyfriends out there you know... Why should should someone be scrutinized for attracting women? What's wrong with that? Sometimes, it's the girls who go after the men even though they have a boyfriend/husband, life's a big porno afterall lol.

Autumnzone, I understand some of what you are saying however i believe most of your anger is miss-directed. Firstly i have a strictly no drunken women policy, if she is drunk i stay well clear, as its as you said 'a recipe for disaster.' Secondly i have been cheated on and i was crushed but im glad it happened. I wouldnt be sitting here happy with myself and my life.(Which are all a result of joining the community) And i would hazard a guess that you wouldnt be on here either. Thirdly i dont think its pathetic to hit on taken women and its not what this post is about. This post is about Gaming taken woman that is from Approach to Close. Its about the moral side of it and looking back at my last three points, i come to the same conclusion (as ive already written in this post) being that its a moral decision at the time. And a judgement of how good her relationship is and how comfortable you are in doing it?
I appreciate the comment tho another point of view just adds to the discussion

Saint

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