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when a girl sees a "nice guy", there's one thing they do


THEY TRAMPLE OVER YOU. they know you're nice, so they know they can treat you like dirt if they wanted to.

if you're the nice guy, and your friend is being picked up by the closest Alpha-male, it's a LOT more likely that this friend is going to sleep with the alpha male than you.

NICE is NOT DOMINANT. nice means LETTING PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THINGS.


that's just not desirable, that's just a friend.

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when a girl sees a "nice guy", there's one thing they do


THEY TRAMPLE OVER YOU. they know you're nice, so they know they can treat you like dirt if they wanted to.

if you're the nice guy, and your friend is being picked up by the closest Alpha-male, it's a LOT more likely that this friend is going to sleep with the alpha male than you.

NICE is NOT DOMINANT. nice means LETTING PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THINGS.


that's just not desirable, that's just a friend.
http://www.dictionary.com
Nice = Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
Pushover = One that is easily defeated or taken advantage of.

Taken from the dictionary, please learn the definitions of the words:)


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So is negging someone being nice?


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"Nice guys" try to hide the fact that they want to sleep with the girl by doing favors and trying to earn their way into bed. Confident men know they need not do this and get into bed.

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Nice = Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
Pushover = One that is easily defeated or taken advantage of.

Taken from the dictionary, please learn the definitions of the words:)

why thank you, this must be a dictionary ive not read before! :D

I never knew that girls thought strictly in dictionary terms.


I guess if you're trying to pick up a robot, exhibiting courtesy and politeness could take you places.

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Im sorry, that's wrong. I only meant to say that if you're dealing with a girl who's bitch shield you haven't dealt with, you might as well just give up. Being a nice guy doesn't show DHV, it doesn't get you farther than being her friend.

Being STRICTLY courteous might work. Don't count on it.


*YES THERE ARE ACCEPTIONS, HUMANS ARE COMPLEX CREATURES*

if you're sure being NICE can take you places, please tell the world what they've been doing wrong all this time.

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Nice = Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
Pushover = One that is easily defeated or taken advantage of.

Taken from the dictionary, please learn the definitions of the words:)

why thank you, this must be a dictionary ive not read before! :D

I never knew that girls thought strictly in dictionary terms.


I guess if you're trying to pick up a robot, exhibiting courtesy and politeness could take you places.

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Im sorry, that's wrong. I only meant to say that if you're dealing with a girl who's bitch shield you haven't dealt with, you might as well just give up. Being a nice guy doesn't show DHV, it doesn't get you farther than being her friend.

Being STRICTLY courteous might work. Don't count on it.


*YES THERE ARE ACCEPTIONS, HUMANS ARE COMPLEX CREATURES*

if you're sure being NICE can take you places, please tell the world what they've been doing wrong all this time.
Well, if you're not the closedminded sort...generally

Meaning that I'm not sure if you didn't get the part about being CONFIDENT with girls while still being nice.


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It's funny, I got into an argument with some girl on another website the other day. She opined that women love nice guys, but any guy who claims to be nice is passive aggressive or turned out to be bitter and angry.

Eventually I told her I'm only bitter about a couple specific situations, and her advice boiled down to lying, avoiding the person and giving her the cold shoulder as a way to increase the girl's attraction to me.

Apparently "nice" to a girl just has a different meaning than it does to me. I count being honest as part of being nice, and returning phone calls as just being considerate. Any advice I've been given, here, from other women and even from therapists has been not to do that.


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Thanks Guys! I understand what people ment by "nice" guy now. Thanks! :D


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Nice = Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
Pushover = One that is easily defeated or taken advantage of.

Taken from the dictionary, please learn the definitions of the words:)

why thank you, this must be a dictionary ive not read before! :D

I never knew that girls thought strictly in dictionary terms.


I guess if you're trying to pick up a robot, exhibiting courtesy and politeness could take you places.

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Im sorry, that's wrong. I only meant to say that if you're dealing with a girl who's bitch shield you haven't dealt with, you might as well just give up. Being a nice guy doesn't show DHV, it doesn't get you farther than being her friend.

Being STRICTLY courteous might work. Don't count on it.


*YES THERE ARE ACCEPTIONS, HUMANS ARE COMPLEX CREATURES*

if you're sure being NICE can take you places, please tell the world what they've been doing wrong all this time.
Its from www.dictionary.com

Anyhow, what you say are completely bullshit. You can get girls just as easy by being nice. Being confident is something different, but I don't have to spit on girls in order to get laid...

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So you don't neg girls? Or veiled insults disguised as teasing are nice?


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So you don't neg girls? Or veiled insults disguised as teasing are nice?
That is a very interesting question, that I am thrilled to answer. What most people do not know is that being nice is something different from a nice gesture. You see, I tease a lot and usually often as well. But I am still a nice guy. Now how is that possible?

The definition on how I see that is basically to create a nice example. Sharing an apple with someone is a nice act, all though this is only an act, or one event if you want to call it that.

On the other hand you could eat that apple yourself, and buy an apple to the other person from time to time. Now, this is a nice behavior.

But what is it then really to be nice?
If you look at those two examples they are both about giving. In these examples you give them an object. A nice person in my view is a person who gives you an emotional encounter, a person who does not dislike you, but rather enjoy your company. You can tease, you can insult, or you can do whatever you want to. But it is the fact that you are giving them something they want that makes you attractive, not the fact that you are pushing them down.

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So you don't neg girls? Or veiled insults disguised as teasing are nice?
That is a very interesting question, that I am thrilled to answer. What most people do not know is that being nice is something different from a nice gesture. You see, I tease a lot and usually often as well. But I am still a nice guy. Now how is that possible?

The definition on how I see that is basically to create a nice example. Sharing an apple with someone is a nice act, all though this is only an act, or one event if you want to call it that.

On the other hand you could eat that apple yourself, and buy an apple to the other person from time to time. Now, this is a nice behavior.

But what is it then really to be nice?
If you look at those two examples they are both about giving. In these examples you give them an object. A nice person in my view is a person who gives you an emotional encounter, a person who does not dislike you, but rather enjoy your company. You can tease, you can insult, or you can do whatever you want to. But it is the fact that you are giving them something they want that makes you attractive, not the fact that you are pushing them down.

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Except that the point of negging is to take someone down a peg, making them think you are superior and therefore desirable. That's not giving them a nice emotion, that's making them feel inferior. It's deliberately hurting them.


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No, that is wrong. The concept of negging is to bring them down to your level, not lower. Thus you can create mutual interest.

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Well I've had girls neg me sometimes. All I do is neg them back and its cool. :wink:


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No, that is wrong. The concept of negging is to bring them down to your level, not lower. Thus you can create mutual interest.

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Bringing someone down is bringing someone down. How is that nice?


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