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You have to get laid inorder to be successful.
Everyone defines their own success. what you seem to be missing is the fact that laying a girl generally leads to success with her. its hard to get anywhere with her without laying her at some point.
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You have to follow routins and games if you don't know what to do.
as opposed to standing there doing nothing?
Gambler's book doesn't even really have any specific "routines" so to speak but simply the concepts behind natural seduction.
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You need to work together to score with a girl. Teamwork!
like wings? its hardly necessary, just makes things easier and faster. so she can see how awesome you are without you sounding like a stuck up dick.
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Women are just objects but we PUA don't treat them like that. We treat them like fuck buddies because we are nice to them and their feelings.
what? Every women is an experience, not an object.
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Self improvement comes as a consiquence of being in a happy relationship.
since when?
Pick Up has made me way more happy with life. I'm less confused and angered by girls, because I now truly understand where they are coming from.
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Then end goal is to get a girl to be happy.
as opposed to making her sad and creeped out? I don't get your point.
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The successive PUA's use routins and stragety, therefore, we have to use routins and stragety to be like the Masters!
let me guess, the 2 masters you know of are Mystery and Style?
ever hear of Gunwitch? Gambler? they pretty much don't tout routines at all, but just ways of presentation.
guess what? everything you try to get the girl is a 'routine' or a 'strategy'. being 'respectful' of women is a strategy.
All social interaction is a form of manipulation, it doesn't matter. there is ALWAYS a goal. you're basically saying Pick up routines are bad, but my routines are good.
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The masters of this game are lost fools who don't know the meaning of life
and you do know the meaning of life? I'd love to hear it.
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A wife with children.
as do I, eventually. but I also don't want to rush into a relationship that me and my girl aren't completely happy with. thats unfair to both of us.
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A stable career.
sweet, pick up helps in relating to people and personal presentation. valuable skills in persuit of a job.
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A healthy realtionship with family and neighbors.
There is a 'relationship' section on this forum by the way. and I've haven't been in an unhealthy relationship since i started pick-up.
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A respectful position in my job.
presentation is a big part of that.
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This PUA mentality changes the way you look at women and keeps you looking at them like a tool.
hardly, I value my experiences with every girl i meet (assuming i valued her at all in the first place) even if it was just a few hours and we never saw eachother again.
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Sure it is O.K to fuck a girl, but when you are O.K. to just fuck any girl you will never fall in love.
because sex and love and mutually exclusive? you can't fuck and love at the same time?
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There is something to LOVE that requires trust. And PUA's are not very trustworthy because they don't commit. And when they do commit they are not stable.
if you know so much about love, why are you single?
I feel I'm very trustworthy. I never succumb to rumors. I spend the time to try to improve every girls life I touch and they love me and trust me for it.
The fact I don't romantically love every girl I see is hardly unhealthy. in fact its more healthy than doing so.
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