This thought has been pondering through my head for a few weeks now.

Could it be that after a certain amount of time, the difference between lays and kisses depends purely on WHERE you are??

I think so. I think after one has developed the personality he wants, it's simply where he is with the target that'll determine what kind of close he will get.

I think once the two are alone at one's house or apartments, the deal will be very easy to seal. (it always has been for me)

and also getting a k-close rather than a #-close will depend on whether you are in a pretty crowded place or a less dense area.

I know this is just repeating the concepts of isolation, but I would like to DISCUSS =]]

<33 Grape

Could location be the BIGGEST factor in determining what close one will receive if one has always achieved his desired personality + goals of PUA??

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You think to much. Why do you care if you get a kiss or not? You shouldn't care so much about moving in for the kill. I think continiously monitoring a womens ability to kiss is a weakness of character. Not only will she feel uncomfortable as you calucate the angle and location of your next move, but you won't be satisifed with yourself. Why are you a predator of women?

Just be confident in yourself, and don't give up. You don't need to know everything about how to control a women to be happy, and you don't have to know everything to do.

Being Alpha is not just about knowing with to do. It is about accepting yourself for who you are.

You need to be satisfied with yourself.

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its logical. a lot of girls dont like sex in the toilet of a bar. but you can k-close anywhere.

Gunwitch's outer game = Sexual state + logistics

That's pretty much it

It's no secret that logistics play a humongous role in seduction

Try this one on for size:
If you try to kiss a girl in a club, and she pulls back a little and looks around like she's checking to see if anyone's looking, just say "I understand" with a knowing smile, take her hand, lead her to somewhere more private, and try again. Boom baby!

Did you answer my question?

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