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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:56 am 
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The local fair is this weekend, and seeing as I didn't have any other plans (if I didn't do anything, I'd be in my room reading The Game) so I thought I'd go out and try my first in-field application of some new pick up stuff I'd learned.

I brushed my teeth before, and grabbed a shiny pleather Adidas jacket, trying to put Mystery's peacocking theory to work. Got there around 9:50 pm, thinking ever so hard as I walked in of the rules to pickup: the thirteen detailed steps, FMAC, negs, memorized openers. When I wasn't walking up to a group of people and talking, I was thinking of these things.

I had a big smile on my face the whole time (don't how forced it looked, but it felt natural). My main opener I used was

"Can you tell this is fake leather?"

Then joking about how cheap I was afterward; ha ha ha, har har har.
Confidence didn't seem too much of a problem tonight. I was in the exhibition barn and there was a group of four girls talking to my friend Dan. I picked my target right away, making sure I didn't break the three second rule. I walked up.

"You guys buying some fudge?" Felt like a pretty forced opener. What Sharplin was thinking: What kind of a stupid opener is that, of course their buying fucking fudge why else would they be standing here, in the line up? Did you ever think of that?

I quickly remembered that I was supposed to ignore the target while opening up to the other members of the group, so me and Dan started to chat about how many crazy girls were at the fair. I then agreed and turned to count the girls in the group "1, 2, 3, 4", inferring that they are the crazy girls. Ha ha ha, har har har.

My target replied. "Funny."
Just like that. Rudely, sarcastically. I paused, they felt awkward, awkward moment over, moving on. Should have negged her. "Shes rude, why do you guys hang out with her?"
"Someone has no sense of humour."
"Don't like to laugh?"
Etc.

They left shortly after that. Needless to say, nothing happened there. I continued to walk around, moving from group to group, social butterfly of the night award should go to me. Over the night my confidence began to fall as I forgot or abandoned what I had learned. I left early tonight, having hugged one girl. That's it.

Let me know how to improve, thanks.

-Sharplin


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One of the things I've learned the hard way is careful delivery of negs. NEVER use words that have an extremely polar connotation. "Rude" is a word I would never use while negging. Negs are supposed to be subtle and delivered in a positive manner. Instead of "She's rude, why do you guys hang out with her?" take a more subtle approach like "Does she act like this all the time?" In that sense, you're being very ambiguous, rather than insulting her by claiming she's rude. I've actually opened sets successfully and royally fucked myself by negging too hard. It's really easy to cross the line from acting selective towards the girls to being a complete douchebag.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:21 pm 
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Thanks for the reply.

Good point, I remember reading that a neg is sort of like a backhanded comment, between a compliment and an insult. Sort of a neutral response. I think they are designed to lower the self confidence of the girl? Also to show that you are not like the other guys, and that you aren't just like "Hey your really pretty lets make out" like all the other guys.

I have to be a little more careful with my negs.

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The local fair is this weekend, and seeing as I didn't have any other plans (if I didn't do anything, I'd be in my room reading The Game) so I thought I'd go out and try my first in-field application of some new pick up stuff I'd learned.

I brushed my teeth before, and grabbed a shiny pleather Adidas jacket, trying to put Mystery's peacocking theory to work. Got there around 9:50 pm, thinking ever so hard as I walked in of the rules to pickup: the thirteen detailed steps, FMAC, negs, memorized openers. When I wasn't walking up to a group of people and talking, I was thinking of these things.

I had a big smile on my face the whole time (don't how forced it looked, but it felt natural). My main opener I used was

"Can you tell this is fake leather?"

Then joking about how cheap I was afterward; ha ha ha, har har har.
Confidence didn't seem too much of a problem tonight. I was in the exhibition barn and there was a group of four girls talking to my friend Dan. I picked my target right away, making sure I didn't break the three second rule. I walked up.

"You guys buying some fudge?" Felt like a pretty forced opener. What Sharplin was thinking: What kind of a stupid opener is that, of course their buying fucking fudge why else would they be standing here, in the line up? Did you ever think of that?

I quickly remembered that I was supposed to ignore the target while opening up to the other members of the group, so me and Dan started to chat about how many crazy girls were at the fair. I then agreed and turned to count the girls in the group "1, 2, 3, 4", inferring that they are the crazy girls. Ha ha ha, har har har.

My target replied. "Funny."
Just like that. Rudely, sarcastically. I paused, they felt awkward, awkward moment over, moving on. Should have negged her. "Shes rude, why do you guys hang out with her?"
"Someone has no sense of humour."
"Don't like to laugh?"
Etc.

They left shortly after that. Needless to say, nothing happened there. I continued to walk around, moving from group to group, social butterfly of the night award should go to me. Over the night my confidence began to fall as I forgot or abandoned what I had learned. I left early tonight, having hugged one girl. That's it.

Let me know how to improve, thanks.

-Sharplin
As to what you did wrong: not that much for your first time. Just try and work out some better situational openers. You should have several generic standing-in-a-que openers ready.

You don't tell us enough about the "Funny". That might have been a brush-off or it might have been an invitation to combat. I'd assume the latter and plough away. The best way to avoid someone creepy is just not to talk to them, the fact she gave you a response is way more encouraging than none.

Either way it is important to understand that completely awful openers sometimes work. It is random, just didn't work this time. An awful or in this case mediocre opener is way better than none at all. Your main mistake was in not congratulating yourself for opening, then taking that confidence boost and next time try and move things a stage further in encounters you make during the rest of the day.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:55 pm 
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As to what you did wrong: not that much for your first time. Just try and work out some better situational openers. You should have several generic standing-in-a-que openers ready.

You don't tell us enough about the "Funny". That might have been a brush-off or it might have been an invitation to combat. I'd assume the latter and plough away. The best way to avoid someone creepy is just not to talk to them, the fact she gave you a response is way more encouraging than none.

Either way it is important to understand that completely awful openers sometimes work. It is random, just didn't work this time. An awful or in this case mediocre opener is way better than none at all. Your main mistake was in not congratulating yourself for opening, then taking that confidence boost and next time try and move things a stage further in encounters you make during the rest of the day.
I am new to this, so I think that I need to find some new openers, I don't have too many. Another opener I have used combines opener and neg: "Grey isn't your colour". I think that one worked.

It sounded like a sarcastic 'funny', maybe a brush off but it sounded like maybe I should have responded to it, with a good neg.

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