Here is my take on this.

I'm proud to gain PUA skills to better a facet of my life (relationship). I wouldn't go around telling everybody because they don't know what it is all about. Some people don't believe in any form of self help. So I just learn my things, do my things and achieve things in my life. Deep inside, I'm proud I'm learning a new skill and having breakthroughs. If they ask, I will tell what I learned.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Psychology

If a kid makes lemonade and stirs sugar into water, he is executing an act of chemistry. Bonus points if he stirs sugar into warm water, then ices down later.

Exerio, if your happiness isn't any way linked to "getting girls", why are you even here? What's the shame in feeling better by "getting a girl"? What do tell them? "I'm with you but you don't make me any happier at all . . ."?

And "PUA" is a self anointed title that means nothing. You can call yourself a buffoon if you want to there's no reason to be proud nor shameful of it.

Basically, I believe happy is a state you possess. You may have a fun time with a girl, a romantic time, a sad time or any other emotions. Although happiness as far as I am concerned is coming from within. Relying on outside factors like other people in order to feel happy is just a way of seeking accept, and does not actually address the mental state you have.

- Exerio

^ Got it. Fun times + romantic times are outside. Happiness is inside. . .

And I suppose no relationship between Fun/romance and happiness?

The content of your character is always your choice...

Why be an asshole when I can control the outcome?

Guys who are naturals still think about what they say most of the time (they just do it quickly)

I've told 2 girls I was a pick up artist at the same time and I still ended up making out with them both at the same time on the same couch.

I am PROUD to be a pick up artist and I FULLY embrace it.

POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Can someone close this topic now, its becoming stupid as fuck.

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No, not really. I can have a day without feeling any romance or fun, but still be happy.
However, they both influence each other, but they don't change who you are, they just influence it.

- Exerio

Backrub please?

Thanks.

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guilty about what?

Point 1. Women go out to get laid.
Point 2. 99.9% of guys’ game sucks.
Point 3. A female CANNOT have sex with a guy she is not attracted to. Due to Point 2 she is sexually frustrated.


Remember, they went out for SOMETHING and they didn’t get it! But, out of the blue, comes a man… A man with balls… A man who LIKES them and wants to make them feel good!

By going to bang her you are making the world a better place! She will feel less frustrated, more feminine and satisfied. This means she’ll be nicer to everyone around her the next day. All of those people will be happier that a girl was nicer to them than usual… Puppies and babies will be happy.

It’s a giant ripple effect!

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lol asshole!

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Stop feeding this troll, he's obviously looking to pull an emotion from our cerebral processing systems.

He's either extremely frustrated, mentally ill, socially unsavy, or, for the better part, suffers from extreme dementia.

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NO.

I dont even consider myself PUA.

I consider myself a guy who is empowering himself and choosing his own destiny.

PUA has its own connotations and reality, Empowerment is much much better.

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I am not a troll. Yes I am upset that is why I am on this forum.

I went to a coffee shop tonight. I sat next to a beautiful girl by accident. I talked to her because I figured why not. I DLV by saying I was a nerd. Then I DLV by telling her that the only reason I vounteer is because of the honor society I am apart of and not because I enjoy it like she assumed. After 20 min's of talking she stood up and left.

I have two choices now.

1.) Consider myself a PUA and feel like I made a mistake because I DLVed.

2.) I can consider myself lucky. Why would I want to invest in a girl who doesn't see in me what I have to offer her. She is not for me. Why should I be conserned about it???

No matter how many games I play, and how many women I sleep with I can never trick her into loving me. I only fall apart because once she figures out I am not what she imagined she left me or will leave me, and then i end up here and try to figure out what went wrong.

I will tell you what went wrong. The fact that I was a PUA instead of just accepting the fact that I was not good at sleeping with many women. So Fucking what? Who cares if I can't get the hotest girl? Who CARES??? I don't need the hottest girl. I just need someone to support me and love me unconditionally. Why does she have to be HOT? Or HOT amazing and smart? IF she is then she will love me for me. Not because of some line. I refuse to be caught up in a game of approach and attraction.

I will be myself. And if I die a reborn virgin then I will, although-- I am positive--I will have more self esteem and confidence than anyone who questions "if they did the right thing"

I think the reason PUA's don't respect themselves and head the advice to "just be yourself" is because we repell women. I used to repell women any time I opened my mouth. I guess it is good to have a guidance book that motivates you into becoming better with women, but know that you need to accept who you are. After you do that You will be OK with the fact that 99% of the women out there won't like you or want you. And their is nothing you can do about it no matter how much you change. If you want a serious relationship then you need to be serious about who you are and DLV to let the girl know it. You don't need sex to live, or feel good about yourself.

The only rule you need to know is that you didn't make a mistake. You never made any mistakes at all. If the girl left that is her fault. Not yours. If you can accept yourself unconditionally you won't beat yourself up for her leaving you. It is NOT your fault. Learn to love yourself.

--Magnum

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Agreed. Sex isn't the end all to thing like a lot of other fucks like to think.

I don't know why I feel guilty. Don't you feel guilty? I mean after a women gives up her only power to you don't you feel responsible for her feelings --- just a little?

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