Hi, I'm Tryst.

I'm an 18 year old AFC from London, just starting my Gap Year. I got into the game after reading the appropriately named book, 'The Game' by Niel Strauss, although I am a complete new comer.

My problem is actually getting girls into bed. I'm in an awkward situation and I'm saying this just so you get an idea of what my situation is, I don't mean to sound arrogant. I'm funny, out-going, I'm good looking and pretty popular and I get girls interested in me on this basis. But I'm still a virgin and I never seem to be able to get the girls I like...where I want them.

I think my problem lies in interpreting IOI's, escalating Kino, maintaining interest....basically all my mid-game. I've never had a serious relationship and I want to learn, from this forum, what I can do to not only get past the block of 2nd base I'm at and how I can sow the seeds of possible relationships.

I fail miserably at doing both these things and it's affecting my confidence. I'm looking forward to learning from all of you guys on this forum.

So, thanks for reading....my not so brief introdcution. haha.

Well for starters if something goes wrong then you can start by not beating yourself up about it. I used to do that and it got me nowhere. I've had and still sometimes have similar sticking points so just realise what you're doing wrong here and there and learn from it.

Hi Tryst, welcome to the forum hey don't worry man I'm also 18 from the UK and I didn't lose my virginity until recently this year. I honestly believe we brittish folk have it easier due to the high level of binge drinking girls when it comes to getting laid this is a problem for finding a decent together girl for a relationship though.

Turn up the night is spot on with his advice don't beat yourself up man, instead keep pushing and you will desensitize yourself to it. My night game is totally egoless now because I have done so many approaches and had a little bit of success. Funny thing is now I'm slowly getting more success due to having desensitized and I intend to keep at it til I'm a pimp.

Your problem with reaching 2nd base is very common you have probably been a provider rather than a lover, (I took this out David De'Angelos Double Your Dating e book)

Lover example:

1. The Bad Boy signifies danger. He controls the situation and is always a thrill to be around.
2. The Adventurer is fun, loves to try new things, and keeps women on their toes with new challenges.
3. The Seducer is sensual, making his girl feel sexy.
4. The Artist uses his creativity and complexity to move her emotions.

Provider:

1. The Successful Guy provides stability, mostly financially.
2. The Daddy is the guy who tells her how to act and what to do, just like her father used to.
3. The Regular Guy is the typical guy: loyal, stable, and ordinary.
4. The Ass Kisser pampers women, usually verbally.

Provider's get sex less often because a women want's a relationship with them so you have to hold it out for months with no guarantee of ever getting some. My advice try add a bit of adventurer or bad boy attributes to yourself.

Thanks for the replies lads.

Turn up the Night: You make a good point, I shouldn't live and die on my success. And should learn from my mistakes...hopefully after reading this forum I'll start to identify just exaclty what my mistakes are haha.

Alpha Lion: I can see how I fit into the 'Regular Guy' category, although I was always the 'bad boy' at school oddly enough, and I'm always up for trying new things and at the centre of a party so I have elements of the Adventurer and Bad Boy in my personality. But I'll try and bring these more to the fore when talking to women. Cheers

Any more suggestions? Any body else that was in a similar situation? All help is very appreciated haha.