What if I am scared to make a move on the girl. Who is going to tell me I am a pussy?

What the fuck does it matter if I don't have the courage to overcome my fear?

Tell me that? Tell me I am wrong for not overcoming my fear to get with the girl.

OR...

Maybe it is O.K. to be scared to kiss a girl. Maybe respecting this women's mouth is something that is O.K. Maybe I am O.K. with not sleeping with a girl for a long period of time...

How about that? What the fuck do you PUA's have to say about that?

I am O.K. with being a fucking pansy pushover bitch for a women. How about that? How fucking about that. What do you gurus have to say to me now. Now that I took your very motivating force behind this community away.

I don't care if I get laid. I am O.K with being a friend. I am O.K. with that. In fact I like it. IN FACT I WANT IT. I dont' want your fucking lines and meanings teases and cocky routins. I want to be myself. I want to be a smuck. I want to wait for months before I get the pussy. I want to fall in LOVE!

I hope you understand where I am coming from.

-magnum

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Lol

After 1 month you'll start thinking about other things.

lol ok

that's fine bro

more pussy for the rest of us

Sometimes we dole out a little tough love on this forum, but that is necessary. You don't change unless staying the same becomes more painful than changing. Pain is a very powerful motivator. And we want you to change because we know, regardless of what you say, you want to change too. If you didn't want to change you wouldn't be here. Changing is hard. We've all been there. But it is better on the other side. We don't want to control you or force you to do anything. We just want to help motivate you to reach your full potential.

Also nobody said you couldn't fall in love, there is no rule against that here. But you shouldn't fall in love with every girl you meet, you'll just wind up in bad situations that way. What we're trying to help you to do, is go out and meet lots of girls, that way you increase your odds of actually falling in love with a great women, but for who she actually is rather than who you want her to be.

Your post is what I wanted, Thank you. I was about to break up with you. I don't know if I believe you though. Because based on the validation of success with women that is how we PUA's get our ego. The more women that love us the better we feel (well they have to be HOT). How can we not care for every girl if the root of our power is the ability to get every girl we want. They feed us like we are vampires. They are nourishment to the soul. We have to care for them.

Do you follow?

It is like we need LOVE from a woman that is why we are here. But I don't need LOVE from a woman anymore, or from a MAN! What I need is to not fucking run my head into a wall because some girl doesn't want me. This website makes me believe it is my fault that she doesn't want me. And I think you are all so full of shit. I can not believe how negative you people are. This website is full of people who have no belief in themselves, and they try to find there LOVE from inside the acceptance of two legs. True love should have come from your parents. I know it didn't. You all need to learn to love yourselves.

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I do want to change. I want to accept the fact that I am a smuck. I don't want to hate myself for not getting a girl. I want to be happy with who I am. I am tired of being a moron who thinks he is better than everyone else, when in reality, he is in the worst place he could be. I want to be me. I am KEVIN JAMES KERR.

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chill out man.

i beat myself up for not being able to do stuff as well, especially with my AA a few months ago.

i realize when you're trying to learn all these pick up stuff. your head keeps giving you shit no matter what stage you're at. the best way to solve this, is to find some people who are doing the same stuff as you around the area and meet-up with them. not only they break your unconscious belief so hard, most guys out there probably have the same mental experience before. by knowing someone goes through the same stuff it helps alot.

i'd recommend you dont read too much forum if you're starting off, because first the information got stuck in your head if you dont have experience to back it up. second there are lots of people who wants a ego boost and so often people who have no experience at all will give out advice.

cheers
zhu

your an angry person crickey now to the questions yar change sucks but if not changing is less painful than changing don't change, we try to help people be the best they can. THink of us like drill sergeants lol

As for validations yes a lot of guys in the community do seek validation from women but that is just another speed bump on the road to self improvement. Once you have moved past it you can get more success.

As for the love thing most people have no idea what it is and settle for what they can get or confuse love and lust, tbh I can't be assed to get too deep into this it is something everyone needs to find in their own time. However, you must realize the unhealthyness of falling madly in love with every girl.

Loving your last post also that is a step in the right direction.

Sadly a lot of people kid themselves that they are some sort of super hero that gets every girl I don't think anyone can claim that. I have just come to terms with failing, I actively enjoy it often more than success, its a fun thing. As for women I do as good as I want to, I am under no illusion of being a guru or something. We are all on the same pathway to self improvement but some are just further down it.


As my final bout of advice I would say work on controlling your emotions a little and inner game, your writing style throught this thread says a lot about how you deal with things and how in control you are of how you feel. Finally next time you talk about people seeking validation externally don't do it between two posts where you are letting your emotional state be completely controlled by factors outside of your control that is all

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I only have one thing to say, if you are happy with your situation, why are you posting on a forum for people who want to get better with women?
Surely if you are OK with being "a fucking pansy pushover bitch for a women" (can you honestly say you don't feel negative when you say that?) you wouldn't be wasting your time trying to tell us we are wrong, but rather just going about your life (that you say you are totally OK with).
Nobody is forcing you to look at PUA stuff, you are doing it by choice.

What do you, Magnum, have to say to that?

Madals

i love myself.. theres no doubt about that. im happy with my life. and i enjoy learning and employing ideas from this forum. not just for the sake of getting a girl but for the sake of knowledge of our society as well as learning what makes ppl tick.

i believe people are here for all different kinds of reasons, but the one common goal is women. many people learn the ideas of PU just to find a girl for a long term relationship thats totally fine. but its ultimately ur decision in what u want and how u want to live ur life. no one else is controlling you. its about self improvement. aand dont beat urself up. it takes time and u have to be patient.. results will come.

O....k

I agree that the name-calling and trying to immaturely motivate guys is fucking lame but really? Your post is absolutely insane. Why would ANYONE want to suck at ANYTHING?

You only suck if you compair yourself to others. You are absolutly beautiful. Don't change because if you believe there is something wrong with you then others will seee it. There is nothing wrong with you.

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Yea i guess it is obivious that I have a hard time controlling my emotions. I am never physically aggressive, but I do get loud and sometimes I type with no care. Normally I never speak without thinking though.

I think I am frusturated because I don't know if I want to have sex with girls of if I want to have a long term relationship. I want to have sex with girls, but I am afraid that things will go bad. I guess it is time for me to move past my finial barrier -- my fear of getting my heart broken again.

Thanks for the advice.

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u get pussy? lol

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