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A 40 year old man in America is screwed. In places like Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Russia, etc. he will have his pick of the world's most beautiful girls (regardless of age). There was NEVER a feminist movement in those places.


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That's a load of bullshit. And clearly a limiting belief.

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No look your just a demotivated piece of shit!

You need to start setting inspiration in your life, start living a good healthy lifestyle which makes you work out at least twice a week, start going out and meeting people and most importantly, start taking responsibility.

I cant believe this bullshit, its like there is no fire in your eyes..

ughh.. i dunno...... i dont care.. ughh.. im 40 and a piece of shit :( *sob*

dude for fuck sake.. "eye of the tiger".. be hungry to improve your life! get yourself together piece by piece.. forget this pickup artist bullshit and focus on being a man, and doing things naturally!

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No look your just a demotivated piece of shit!

You need to start setting inspiration in your life, start living a good healthy lifestyle which makes you work out at least twice a week, start going out and meeting people and most importantly, start taking responsibility.

I cant believe this bullshit, its like there is no fire in your eyes..

ughh.. i dunno...... i dont care.. ughh.. im 40 and a piece of shit :( *sob*

dude for fuck sake.. "eye of the tiger".. be hungry to improve your life! get yourself together piece by piece.. forget this pickup artist bullshit and focus on being a man, and doing things naturally!
Seriously, just shut the fuck up already. You aren't helping him any by calling him a piece of shit.


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On the contrary, I want to dig some emotion into him, to replace this void of nothingness that he has! Anger is good! in just the right small amounts, it can get a person on his feet.

So from your view point im being degrading, but from my viewpoint im getting him riled up, almost like a coach would before a big game! I want him to realize that hes a man....he has fire and ambition, potential, and drive!

I can't do this by reasoning with him.. so fuck off Corey and let me get through!

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On the contrary, I want to dig som emotion in him, o replace this void of nothingness that he has! Anger is good! in just the right small amounts it can get a person on his feet.

So from your view point im being degrading, but from my viewpoint im getting him riled up, almost like a coach would before a big game! I want him to realize that hes a man and he has fire and ambition, potential, drive!

I can't do this by reasoning with him.. so fuck off Corey and let me get through!
Actually how about you go fuck yourself. If you can't do it by reasoning, then just let it go with him....


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That's for him to decide when he replies, if he gets it. Tough love works!

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Tough love works!
Depends on the person, really.


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fingers crossed. If there is no fire there... I cant help him, no one can.. Its like the scene from rocky when hes going to rematch mr T.. he dosn't have that fire.. the eye of the tiger..

Thats what i do to my students, i rile them up, piss them off, make them angry, then make them driven and get on the ball.. Without that act... *shakes head*.. its impossible! Reasoning is so weak.. people go "oh cool... that pickup stuff.." and ignore it.

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Yeah giving me advice is not going to run!

all that wlll happen is a smile and my middle finger!

Keep up the good work tho, we certainly need more forum whores ;)

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And as far as your question is concerned...oh.. should i?

yeah... ill answer it

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I don't understand how you believe negative emotions will project to POSITIVE actions.
Negative... well they are more like emotions that would cause a person to emote.. which is exactly what we want, because these half dead people come to me all the time, and are like a flock of zombies who cant be bothered to do fuck all with their life.

You cant plead with them, you cant reason with them, you have to make this zombie come alive, the best way is to piss him off and make him realism that everyone's fucking him over, then u can inspire him and get him in a good lifestyle and kick him out to do his runs!

I'm exceptionally brutal when it comes to my students, i get in their face and outright tell them to go fuck themselves. I want emotion, I cant work with nothing.

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I'm exceptionally brutal when it comes to my students, i get in their face and outright tell them to go fuck themselves. I want emotion, I cant work with nothing.
Wow.......they must have amazing self-control NOT to smash your fuckin face in.


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Wow.......they must have amazing self-control NOT to smash your fuckin face in.
Yeah its a very fine line, you shouldn't walk it if you don't know what your doing! Ill try to post a video sometime soon to explain all this! It only works on people who suppress emotions or have very little emotions, its to spark the fire in their eyes... when I have that hungry, alive, emotion I can then work with them to move it over to inspiration and goals, lifestyle etc..

I can't do anything with positive emotions, if i try to tell them positive things they will just ignore me and say "oh yeh.. i get it.. the pickup stuff".. and end up going nowhere or forgetting it. That's why you have so many seminar junkies, because David Deangelo isnt doing enough to get through to them. Hypnotica on the other hand does exactly what I do, he brings out, or undigs their emotions, checkout the ahnialation method.

But this is all so elementary.. I guess its different when you start coaching, try it sometime! even if its just your friends.. get the most unmotivated, unlivley person, who has been suppressed his entire life, and see what you can do.
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If Impact insulted me in any way, I'd just brush it off and try to combat his insult with a logical argument, rather than go "roar roar ima be bitin yo dik off sonnnn"
Id outright look you in the eyes and bring out any insecurity you ever had.. and if there is none there then there is none there :) but believe me you don't want me to try it. Although if you genuinely pass, ill shake your hand and say phenomenal! A person who has no inner sabotage, or worries or secretes or pain, is generally bound to do very well. But the thing with us human beings is that we all have a secrete pain deep down, thats what shapes who we are... and ill never exploit that pain, unless its poisoning your soul! Ill try anyway, it all depends on how receptive people are, some people will outright know what I'm doing and not respond... then I'm just powerless to genuinely assist them.

You have to keep in mind, this is all done with the best of intentions! I want the person I'm talking to, to succeed and move forward, I'm not a dick and I don't take pleasure in anyone's pain. I try to make them realize that they can do well in life, only if they decide to live it!

The other way is to do the same thing, to bring out emotions but to do it in a passive way, almost like someone talking to the ear of another person and getting them to think about a roller coaster of emotions. Again same purpose, to attempt to dig out something!

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if you think back to how you started as a pickup artist or on your journey as a man, do you remember the anger you went through and frustration before you wokeup to your senses? its creating that in people, who cant initiate that process in themselves.

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A 40 year old man in America is screwed.
No, no . . . a 40 year old YOU in America is screwed. Which is why you left.

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The funny thing is . . .

It's the typical mindset of a mature 40 year old that tends to be quite attractive to girls of any culture. At this point, a man has had some affairs, relationships, and one night stands. He's professional and he's met and dealt with many different people from all walks of life. He doesn't go crazy over little disputes with "little girls". He sees humor in all things. And while an 18 year old might take a "negative verbal message" personally and hastily reply with an playground insult, a 40 year old man knows that little kids tend to act like, well . . . little kids. So he smiles at it . . . and chooses language/behavior to take charge of the situation so that everything in the social set progresses positively.

Go to any playground and just hang out. You'll see plenty little kids telling their parents, "I hate you! I'm so mad at you! You're ruining my life, etc . . ." Well adjusted parents know that this is just a short emotional burst so while they don't simply take the bullshit, they take charge and manage the situation LIKE AN ADULT. Meanwhile, other children and immature parents(those who really have NO BUSINESS being parents) will just stand there and toss insults back and forth. Nobody leaves happy. Berated kids will continue their emotional diarrhea and their counterparts will continue to take things personally and continue to stimulate bad behavior.

Yeah, you can just leave the show. . . or you can manage it to your own benefit. The tools to manage the show are all here. . . and as a 40 year old, I'd think you have a leg up on younger kids in terms of utilizing those tools. I doubt most posters here have any clue to why certain routines work but it all amounts to effectively managing social situations. If you can calmly communicate with a waitress to correct an order without pissing her off to spit on your food, you can do this. If you can ask your boss for a raise by offering demonstrable benefits you've added to the company, you can do this. If you can laugh off your 5 year old niece's tantrum, you can do this.

Many younger men simply don't have the mental stability, experience, nor the maturity to manage their own emotions through social situations without clowning around, insulting others, or simply giving up. This is why they mostly need to rely on rehearsed cliche's. In my mind, most of the buzzwords, acronyms and "routines" in our game is an attempt to elevate a kid's visible behavior to that of a well adjusted 40 year old. Know what you want. Know who can give it to you. Assess the situation, and manage your way through. And it's this ability that makes you attractive to women.

You're only missing a tiny piece of the puzzle. You probably already have a "gut-feeling" that interacting with women in terms of sex and relationships is really no different than interacting with your boss or the waitress at a breakfast joint. You are right. It's NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL. One writes you a paycheck, the other gives you pancakes, and women(in the scope of our discussion) offers you sex and companionship. The specific language might be different but the strategy to gain any of these things from various people are nearly the same.

Don't dumb yourself down to thinking you need to be 20. All those kids are rehearsing routines in an attempt to appear more mature than they are. You don't need to rehearse. You're already mature. Just be your well adjusted 40 year old self and corral those girls like you'd line up a bunch of your rowdy niece's friends in the ice cream store for their treats. (They want their ice cream. They want to line up. But they NEED you to give them direction)

Accept this truth and accept your role. . . and go get em'.
Until you actually have lived in America don't say anything. Until you know what life for an American male in places like Ukraine, Russian, Estonia, Latvia, etc. is like for an American male don't say anything. Ask ANY straight American expat who lives in the above places and he will tell you how much better his romantic life is. Ask ANY American straight male expat.

I didn't read most of your post. You tend to harp on the same stuff over and over. You are not American. American men have a HUGE advantage if they play their cards right.


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Yes, American Males have HUGE advantages in Europe.

I had to do NOTHING in Romania when I used to go on vacation.

I'd literally have 3-4 chicks approach me "Oh damn you're that American guy!?!?! Hey there :oops: "

European girls jump on American dick.

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Yeah but European girls are worth shit.

I want a rich American actress who earns over 20 million a year! good luck finding that in Europe! And ive dated models from Louis vuiton, Brazilians for fashion week, i dated a famous singer, local model and makeup artists, actresses a fashion designer etc.. and I haven't even come close... I need to get in the room with a hollywood star for 10 min so I can set my kids up for life :) haha...! and no Romanian, French, Italian girl can do that.

Most of Europe is over run by migrants and gypsies! There is no one left in the home countries!

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